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Prepaid plans for lower volume users would be nice to see. I don't have a need for "unlimited" messaging at the cost it comes with. Something like 25 or 50 messages for something under $10/mo. would be a base plan that would attract me. It may seem crazy to have a plan that costs that little but the reality is that I get all of my voice/text/data needs met by another provider for less than $13/mo. and so coming to Koodo would increase my cost with having to spend $15/mo. just to get messaging and then have to add voice and data boosters to that. I would think such a plan might also attract budget users like kids and people on fixed incomes.

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Anything cheaper would just be of lower value. I actually think it's good because a lot of parents want their kids to only text (a lot of them only do that) and this covers that. The boosters are nice because they don't expire until they're used up.
> Anything cheaper would just be of lower value. I'm not sure what you are trying to say there. It's pretty much a given that if you pay less, you get less, which is unsurprisingly of lower value. But that's entirely the point I am trying to make. The "unlimited texting" base plan just has too high a value for low volume users. So yes, lower the cost and lower the value to something that fits within a low volume user's value range. And yes, this would be good for the plans parents might be will to purchase for their children. i.e. "I will buy you a 50 texts/mo. plan. If you want more than that, then you are on your own to pay for a higher value (and cost) plan."
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If you are happy with your other provider why are you looking at switching to Koodo?
Because I like Koodo and think Koodo could do an even better job than my current provider if they considered a new class of customers. Yes, ultimately I am getting better value at my current provider but I don't think Koodo has to go very far to exceed that value, but it's not quite there yet as I would be increasing my monthly cost to come to Koodo for the same services.
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The issue is that the majority of users are not low volume users. some peopel are getting rid of landlines and only using the cell phone. If the demand was there for low usage plans, I am very sure Koodo would be all over that.
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Where is this $13 plan you speak of? I am interested. Can you post a link?
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Whereas I'll always support ideas to pay less 😃 I think perhaps the biggest advantage of the higher base fee is that the cost for minutes and data can be so low: $0.05 per minute Canada wide as opposed to $0.25 local calling with most others, and $3 per 100MB as opposed to $10 for 100MB with ALL others. Because of Koodo's base fee, right now it is the only plan that comes close, even surpasses some postpaid plans and if they changed that, imo they''d just become "yet another" prepaid provider... but again that is just my opinion 🙂
@Dennis: It's (about) $13/mo. for my usage patterns. The provider is < href="https://www.speakout7eleven.ca/">7-11 Speakout. I get 100MB of data for $10/mo. and pay-as-you-go ($25 minimum top-up but lasts 365 days, not the typical 30 days) voice and texts, but since I am a lower volume of text/voice user, I estimate that I easily stay under $3/mo. of usage for those. This kind of plan of course is not going to work for a higher volume user. But as a low volume user, I am also a low-load-on-the-network user so the lower income from me as a customer is commensurate with my putting only very little strain on the provider's resources. Maybe Koodo is just not interested in such kinds of users.
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brian wrote:

@Dennis: It's (about) $13/mo. for my usage patterns. The provider is < href="https://www....

Nice. A $10 per month base plan would be a great deal
brian wrote:

@Dennis: It's (about) $13/mo. for my usage patterns. The provider is < href="https://www....

It would be. But I won't pretend to think that I won't get less to pay less. I don't expect unlimited messaging for less than the $15 that Koodo has set. But I'm willing to live with some number of texts less than unlimited.
@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (which who wouldn't since they don't expire) are a much better value that most other pre-paid plans, but the higher minimum base price already exceeds my cost at Speakout, even though the price per minute/MB/text is higher.
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brian wrote:

@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (whic...

Ah yes, that is why it is so nice to have choices. I know somebody who uses an international SIM card in Canada, because they probably need to use it once a year so the $0.60/minute and $1/MB fee are no objection. They pay no 911 fee and there is no $25/year top up requirement... that is why we are allowed to pick and choose the plan and provider that suits us best.
brian wrote:

@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (whic...

Indeed. You are right about that. And I'm happy enough to stay where I am barring any other better choices. But to that point, I'm just letting Koodo know what they could do to gain more customers. If they are interested in them as customers.
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brian wrote:

@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (whic...

Another thing is that while Koodo is very much interested in getting new customers, their bread and butter is the highest possible monthly plan on the largest possible Tab (supposedly, this keeps people around longer since they can't afford to "get out"). That's a nice, constant revenue stream that comes in every month (for your carrier). The sole purpose of lower priced plans with low value and/or prepaid (which I use), from the carrier's perspective, is only to keep money from going into a competitor's pocket. They would much rather have you on a monthly plan, but if you won't have any of that, then at least you're not helping fatten another company's wallet. This is why I believe Koodo won't have anything cheaper than the current $15 prepaid plan.
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brian wrote:

@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (whic...

Actually, it seems koodo would prefer people [i]not choose to use tab L, otherwise they would have made the associated plans more appealing.
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brian wrote:

@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (whic...

You actually have a very good point Timo... Maybe Koodo should come up with a much cheaper, NoTab plan with Talk+Text only? Not much different from prepaid, but would allow roaming and monthly add-ons...
brian wrote:

@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (whic...

I am sure Koodo would love everyone to have the biggest plan they sell, but then they would have few customers. There is value in servicing even the low volume customers and that's that they may grow into higher volume customers. If those low volume customers find more attractive value elsewhere as low volume customers then chances are better than good that when they grow into being higher volume customers they will grow into a higher volume plan on whichever provider they are with as a low-volume customer. Low volume customers also need not be money-losers since after-all they are low volume and therefore low usage/strain on the resources so they don't cost very much on the infrastructure.
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brian wrote:

@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (whic...

What you're basically asking for is what all the others are offering already... And here is where we respectfully disagree: to me the appeal of Koodo prepaid is that they dared to offer something [i]different . However I'm sure if enough people agree with you, Koodo will offer what the market wants so here's to hoping 🙂
brian wrote:

@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (whic...

I don't think I am. What I am proposing does not have Koodo doing anything different in how they model their pre-paid plans: (which I will agree is different given that their base plans star with texting and adding voice and data "boosters") just that they lower their low bar.
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brian wrote:

@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (whic...

For really low-volume users (especially those who do not use data) SpeakOut is good. I used to use SpeakOut too, but since I use less data and more text, Koodo actually worked out cheaper.
brian wrote:

@Sophia: You are right that the voice and data Boosters, if you buy the biggest ones (whic...

Funny enough, I probably use more data than I do text even and still SpeakOut works out cheaper than Koodo could for me. Of course I'm not streaming video or even audio with my data connection -- just using it to get mail, browse the web, etc. while not at home, but even still 100MB/mo. is much more than I ever use.

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