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Expand 4G coverage from Winnipeg to Thunder Bay


Living, travelling and working in SE Manitoba and NW Ontario now requires a CDMA Koodo phone. Doing business without any data connection is becoming problematic. I am hoping Koodo "fills in the 4G blanks" along the Transcanada Hwy before loyal customers like me have to switch providers to access this service.

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Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?
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Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

They did but the coverage area along highway 11/17 stops just before the Shebandowan area. Picks up again in Kenora then nothing between Kenora and Winnipeg.
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Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

I hate that, as a trucker I feel it's dangerous to be out if service for that long.
Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

If I had 4G available with Koodo between Winnipeg and Kenora I would get a new Blackberry 10 device and data plan. Most of my construction work is in SE Manitoba in the South Whiteshell Park and Clearwater Bay area NW Ontario. Total blank spot for 4G, have to use CDMA, NO data. How long will I wait?
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Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

It wouldn't financially make sense for them to expand the network into that area. I bet less than 1% of Koodo's customers rely on that area and any potential customers don't outweigh the cost of building towers, etc.
Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

Build it and they will come. Koodo has the best cell deals by a substantial margin here in MB. I know of several people living and/or working around here that would now be on the Koodo network given 4G coverage, but are stuck with more expensive MTS and Rogers. MTS has in my experience terrible customer service, and Rogers terrible signal coverage. My Koodo CDMA phone gets the best reception of all our MB providers. Now up it to 4G and many will switch, I am sure.
Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

"less than 1% of Koodo's customers rely on that area" precisely because there is no 4G data network with Koodo here.
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Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

While Ahmad is right about it not being densely populated it is heavily traveled. Just voice communication ability would be a plus. On the way to Alberta there is quite the dead zone.
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Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

I think they would need about one tower, maybe two just for voice/text. I know it's costly but who's to say if that happens, how many customers between Winnipeg and Thunder Bay would end up joining as a result. Even cross country truckers would love that. In the end, I do agree with Ahmad. The towns between T.bay and the Peg do not have enough population to support that sort of coverage
Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

Do consider the volume of travelers on Transcanada Highway regarding population support.
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Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

Good point
Chad Burr wrote:

Didn't koodo update 4g in t-bay?

You also have to consider the fact that Koodo needs Tbaytel's permission as wll as Manitoba's provider's permission to expand as well.
My experience is that 4G phones do not work at all here. They do not connect to CDMA at all. Any tower supporting Telus/Koodo 4G phones will have full capability in 4G. If their 4G phones could switch to CDMA as required in this area I would have one already. This is not the case so having "just voice/txt" would likely require different technology in the phones to be able to use CDMA when required. As it is, they will not work here at all.
Neil Bryan wrote:

My experience is that 4G phones do not work at all here. They do not connect to CDMA at all. Any ...

CDMA phones don't require a sim card based on how that technology works. Same can be said for HSPA and because HSPA requires a sim card(and sim cards do not run on a CDMA network) its almost impossible for an HSPA phone to work on a CDMA network. CDMA phones are attached directly onto the network where as HSPA phones work via the sim card. You will never ever have an HSPA phone that connects to the CDMA network. It just doesn't work like that in my experience.
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Neil Bryan wrote:

My experience is that 4G phones do not work at all here. They do not connect to CDMA at all. Any ...

Original BlackBerry Storm sold on telus can connect to 3g networks (not telus's). Via use of a sim card.
Would this be out of the scope of Koodo, and rely on the growth of Telus?
MarcusG wrote:

Would this be out of the scope of Koodo, and rely on the growth of Telus?

I think however you look at it, no Telus, no Koodo. Same towers and coverage. I expect a correction if wrong 🙂. With cdma in MB my info has it they use MTS network, but once new technology came in (i.e. 4G) that was it for MTS sharing towers. Telus/Koodo have had to put up their own towers/network for 4G.
MarcusG wrote:

Would this be out of the scope of Koodo, and rely on the growth of Telus?

That requires permission from MTS.

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