Young children shouldn't have a cell phone

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I don't think that kids under 16 years old should have a cell phone. I know a girl who is only 7 and has a cell phone, this is ridiculous.
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Whereas I agree with you to some extend :) I am unclear what you expect Koodo (considering the business they are in) to do about it? :D
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How does this have to do with Koodo?
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Koodo is a mobile company isn't it?
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It is, but Koodo will never sell a phone to a minor. It is up to the child's parent(s) and/or guardian(s) to decide wether or not they get a phone. Nothing Koodo can do to stop that, unfortunately.

Once a person reaches the age of 18, they have the legal right to decide wether or not they want to get a phone by themselves. That individual would then be legally responsible for all fees associated with the account.
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“How does this have to do with Koodo?”

Well it is under ideas and I've seen some stripped down and restricted cell phones meant for kids where they only get to call home (or receive calls from home). Would probably be nice to see Koodo offer a locked down “kiddy” phone with these kinds of restrictions and a monthly plan priced appropriately. My phone is a Motorola and has MotoBlur where you can just go to the web site , log into your Blur account and tell it to “Locate my phone”, that would be an awesome feature for them to offer also as minors who have a legal guardian really have no reasonable expectation of privacy as to their location, etc. I can see how such a “controlled” phone could be a very useful and lucrative offering and Koodo could even give the parents control over who the phone can call or who can call it.
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That's not Koodo's goal. If such a phone can be unlocked and work on Koodo's network then it can be used on Koodo, but I don't think there's enough of a demand for such a phone to be sold by Koodo.
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Most phones these days can be set with fixed dial numbers and protected with a password. Check it out under call settings FDN

Even if a 7yr old has a S4, it's improbable that the child has full access to it (we should hope)
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Someone gets the revenue from the 7 year old's phone plan, if they had a kid friendly plan then they get the revenue :)
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Even the Z10 has this option. It only allows the phone to call those numbers you set. A password is required to edit them.

@steve I don't understand your point. Koodo has a 20$ per month plan that's perfect for kids.

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Can you not track your phone natively with Android? Or does that also require an app?
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It does require an app currently
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Actually, if Koodo were to offer a rugged waterproof phone like a Rugby or a Sonim or one of them kids phones (I don't remember the name), I am sure many parents might be interested in giving such a phone to their kids knowing it will survive a kids torture. What do y'all think ?
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Probably. If you know your kid isn't the safest, those devices would be perfect for them.
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I just checked my Android, open phone, menu key, tap settings, fixed dialing is there on Cyanogenmod so im assuming it's a native feature. Can't imagine giving a kid a rooted s2 however.
If you don't like kids having cellphones, it seems to me there's a wonderful solution that'll solve your problem. Just don't give your kid a cellphone and voila, problem solved ! It doesn't have to be more complicated than that.
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Since that was exactly what Bonnie suggested, I assume this topic can be marked "implemented" :D
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Bonnie didn't actually suggest anything, she stated an opinion.
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I have a friend who just got a cat. Everybody knows dogs are far superior. It's just so ridiculous. He should have known better.
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lol
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I got my first phone when I was 17... my future kids are not getting one until around 14 at the earliest.
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My kids have had one since they were 9. It was a simple flip phone and was for emergencies only and cost $25/year. They are now 13 and have a simple android that has a very small text package and a data block. This is a personal family decision and my kids are mature enough to be very responsible with their phones and I like how they can contact me and I can contact them at any time.
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My 8 year nephew wants an iPhone, Samsung galaxy... He doesn't have a cellphone. I asked if any of his friends have a cell, he said no. Eventually my brother plans on getting a simple phone for him. My brother said if he wants a fancy phone, he will have to wait until he is older and has a part time job to pay for it.
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My 13 yr old daughter has a cell phone. It's the only way she will talk to me. We tried to actual phone call thing but all I get is "uh huh" "i don't know" then her eating or being distracted by the TV.
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Haha that's priceless :-D
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Times are a changing and that's just the way of the world now with kids having cellphones. I don't really have a problem with it.
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So I am just reading this as I am a parent considering getting my soon to be 11 year old son a cell for his birthday. It would be for emergencies while out and when he is at school as he doesn't want to be calling from the school phone all the time. I am trying to get him to be a bit more independent.

I don't need criticism here but would like to know what the best basic phone would be and how would I make sure he uses it for just the numbers I want him to have. I don't want him calling his friends on it. Just want him to have the ability to phone home, my cell, hubbys cell, daycare and grandparents if needed.
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The Samsung Galaxy Ace 2x is a great phone for kids as its priced reasonable and hasn't had any real issues reported. Also it can be set to only be able to call certain #s. When setting up the account though it would be in your best interest to have a data block put on the account so that the phone can not access the Internet as Internet use can run a bill up extremely fast, especially with a child using it that isn't aware of what uses data and what doesn't. They would still be able to use the phone over wifi to download games and apps to playboy the phone which I'm sure they would really love.

Also if you get the Galaxy Ace 2x I strongly suggest you buy a case for it or any full touch screen phone. Just make sure the case covers the back of the phone and wraps over the edges of the glass screen on the front of the device as the edges of the glass front are the only real fragile point of the phone, but are fine if covered with a case.
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That's your opinion. I, myself, am a "young child" and my phone is extremely important to me. My phone keeps me in contact with many of my friends, my family and my co-volunteer workers as I volunteer regularly. In my phone has all of my social networking applications as well as important emails and reminders as my phone is basically my "planner". My phone is also a great device to keep me entertained when I do not have access to anything else.

Especially with technology advancing so fast these days, I feel like it is essential that kids start using this technology as it is a great assistance. I agree that many people get addicted (I am totally addicted to my phone lol) and may use it for the wrong reasons but if I was a parent, I would definitely get my child a phone because it is such a good communication device.

It's my opinion however but you posted this on the Koodo's community thread. Well Koodo is a Cellular Company and I think a companies goal to earn as much profit as they can so I don't think they will try to "restrict" sales to younger kids.
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To each their own
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I went through this a few years ago with my two sons (now 13) and this is my thoughts:

1) I wouldn't give him a very expensive phone. I have, and love, my Samsung Galaxy SIIX but I wouldn't give one to them. Young boys tend to break a lot of stuff and for them to break a $250 phone would be really hard to take. And, it's a fairly big phone. I gave them each a $100 android phone that's small and easily fits in their pocket. I'm also concerned that if they have too "fancy" a phone they might have it stolen.

2) Does his school have a cell phone policy? Is he even able to have one at school? Will it be in a locked locker if he can't have it in his pocket? My sons' school does allow cell phones but they have to be silent during class time. I installed an app called "Silent Time" and I've programmed their phones to be mute during classroom hours.

I feel way better knowing that I can reach them and they can reach me at any time. This has given them a lot more independence and me some peace of mind :)
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Hey guys!

This is my first post in the Koodo Community. I'm going to be switching over and becoming a Koodo customer pretty soon because I hear people love the service and support here. And the community! You guys seem awesome.

I'd like to contribute something to this discussion. I'm 16, and I think the statement '"kids" under 16 shouldn't have a cell phone' is quite subjective. Of course, being 7 and having a phone is a tad over the top, but there's a huge age gap between 7 and 16. Maturity really starts to change.

I've seen people who are *really* undeserving of the phones they have, and are teenagers. They abuse them, drive their parents up the walls with increasing fees, and they lose a bit of their social skills along the way. It's a bad thing. I totally realize and agree with that.

Too quickly however, people tend to generalize based on this fact. Having a cell phone and having to pay for both that and your plan can teach you responsibility. (can't pay the bills, can't have your phone) Teens learn to save money. (heh, if I learned that sooner...) I know quite a few teens who don't abuse their phones and actually use them to do something productive. I do freelance work designing websites, and know some teenagers who want to get into the same thing. My phone helps me stay on task, and keep in touch with clients on the go. It doubles a task manager and productivity beast if used properly for school, too. Instead of discouraging phones, people should be taught how to use them to become more efficient.

I got my first phone when I was 14. It was a fairly slow Motorola Dext. It was a gift, and I took care of it. I upgraded to a Galaxy Nexus last year- but when I upgraded, I had to fork out the $350 of my own money to do it.

I'd say a good age to get a child used to a phone is 12 or 13, depending on needs. Of course, that's just my opinion. Getting a crazy, feature-packed phone would be ridiculous at that point (unless there are different circumstances- lotta teen entrepreneurs heading out nowadays) Get a simple phone for them to just call home, and get used to how the whole system works.

I hope I didn't bore any of you with this long response. Just figured I'd put my opinion in.
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Hey Matthew, Great post and if the kid or teen is as mature as yourself then I see no issue in having a cell phone. You hit it right on the head and that it does really matter on their maturity level as its very easy to run up a cell bill into the hundreds or even thousands (I've seen it many times) and then it's stuck on the parents to pay that massive bill. So it really depends if you trust your kid and if you as a parent are willing to take the time to make sure they know what to do and not to do to avoid a insane bill and for the parent to make sure that they take the preventative measures they can to avoid it as well. It's really like anything else and you can take the risk to trust your kid but always know that the responsibility always falls on you as a parent in the end. So don't call up your cell provider and say we'll I know that my bill this month is $200 but it's because my kid didn't know what they were doing, because it doesn't matter it falls on the parents shoulders to make sure your kid knows what to do and not to do like I said previously.

Anyways I kind of went off on my own tangent from yours Matthew but my intent really was to just tell you that was a great post and make sure you come back and keep posting if you can help out at all because I have a feeling you could :-)
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Excellent post Matthew, welcome to the community!
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Thanks guys! I feel welcomed :)
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In reading this post there seem to be several main ideas:

1) What age is too young?
2) Why should kids have cell phones?
3) What is Koodo's role in this?

I am sure there are more questions but these seem to be the main ones.

1) Answer - there is really no age that is too young or too old - people mature at different rates, and maybe having a cell phone will help people with responsibility, so instead of having everything given to them they start to realize important things. Even if it is originally a less expensive cell phone so they can learn with it and eventually get a more expensive phone (like Matthew has done).

2) Answer - Easiest way for parents to get in touch with their kids (instead of Amber went to Mike's place, and then to Charlie's, and then to Nicole's, and then to the park, etc... - trying to call them up would be a nightmare). Also, if said child has an emergency, can easily call police, fire, or ambulance - instead of trying to find a quarter for a pay telephone.

3) What is Koodo's role in this - Tyler was right, with postpaid accounts (where you get a bill every month), you need to be 18 to get the phone. If a parent decides to give their child a cell phone, it is their choice, but Koodo reps will try and find out information about where the phone is being used....

For example - 6 months ago, there were plans that allowed for 50 text messages per month (approx 1.8 msgs per day). Agents would ask if they were getting it for their child and then suggest that the parent add on unlimited messaging. It is something that Koodo agents do to make things better for the customer (imagine getting a bill with 8,000 text messages in a month - works out to be $1,590 extra on your bill ($0.20/message)

Koodo runs a credit check on the people that are responsible for the account, but what they do with their phone is entirely up to them - Koodo agents will bend over backwards to try and make your experience better

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