Will my Moto G, fully paid for, be unlocked when I get it?

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I would like to buy a phone (Moto G) using my (positive) tab balance (I have more than enough to fully pay for the phone).

If I do buy it, will it be unlocked when I get it? If not, why not? (After all, I have *paid* for it in full, and I am a stable Koodo customer)
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Jonathan I, Mobile Master

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CRTC rules state that an unsubsidized phone from a carrier has to be provided with the means to unlock it immediately, but it doesn't say anything about price. You *can* get it unlocked right away but it will cost you $50. I would recommend a site like cellunlocker.net or gsmliberty if you don't want to pay Koodo for it.
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The phone will be locked. The only phone that Koodo sells unlocked is the Nexus 5. It will cost $50 to unlock the phone.

Alternatively, if you want an unlocked Moto G, you can purchase directly from Motorola (or I believe amazon.com is also selling it unlocked).
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Ugh ... I sort of thought that might happen. Probably cannot use my tab to pay for the unlock either, eh?

Sigh ... oh well, downgrade Koodo from 5 stars to 4 ...
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Obviously you've never heard my thoughts on DVDs ;-)

Again, just because it's the status quo, doesn't make it right. And, if we want it to change, we must vote with our pocketbooks. I don't buy e-books, because I prefer to actually own my books.

And, unfortunately, I think that preventing customers from walking has allowed most carriers to get really sloppy with their service ... it's just not worth it.

Jonathan: I agree, in most Koodo plans the difference isn't that much, and that's why I like Koodo, but in this regard they are not the norm I suspect.
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Clearly there isn't enough of you James. :-) Voting with ones pocket book is often the suggestion. That said no one stopped buying gas when people were unhappy with prices going up in unison for the wekend. :-)
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Fair enough Chris ... I guess we *don't* just vote with our pocket books. We also complain to our governments, when they choose to listen ...
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Jonathan, it's no coincidence that BYOD doesn't save you anything in your example.

I loathe that my monthly plan price is helping subsidize other customers' phones. I'm not against subsidizing phones for those that want it, but only 10% the monthly price for unsubsidized? No wonder the carriers are getting away with this.

This is still a "gotcha" market where carriers compete to lock you in and then you're stuck. That way they don't actually have to be competitive. I can't exactly blame for-profit corporations for behaving this way as we're allowing them to by paying the asking price.
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This is why I think it should be 15% for all. I know there's been a bunch of topics for that before. I agree with that; there should be a higher incentive for BYOD.
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It's only a $5 or $10 nuisance to have a reputable 3rd party unlock it.

It is especially important to unlock a Koodo phone as they don't have any reasonable roaming packages outside of Canada so if you do travel outside of Canada it is a must that you unlock the phone and then use it with a SIM card from a local carrier in the country you are in.

You can also use one of the many call forwarding services to forward your incoming calls from Canada to overseas at rates that are less then $0.05/minute.

The first thing I do with a phone that is locked to a specific carrier is unlock it, nothing more than a simple nuisance.
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I agree Steve ... nothing more than a simple nuisance. When I travel, I always use an unlocked phone.
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Where in Canada can you get a phone unlocked for $5 or $10?
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Alberto: try eBay
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Thanks Chad, never thought ebay offered that service, how reliable would you say it is?
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Just be sure to check the sellers feedback. Someone with a high percentage of positive feedback is always best in any transaction.
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Shoulda got a Nexus 4 :P
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Funny you should say that, but in fact I have a Nexus 4. The Moto G is not a replacement, but I managed (through not knowing about the 10% sim-only discount), to run up enough of a tab. I can only use the tab up by buying a phone and then gifting it. If I was paying my own money (no strings attached) I'd never buy a phone that wasn't unlocked. If I was buying a phone to replace my Nexus 4, it'd be a Nexus 5 direct from the Google Play store!
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Ahh, gotcha.

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