What area does Koodo cover with 3g in Ontario?

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Hey guys, I'm looking at getting a new phone, unlocked, to put on Koodo's prepaid plan. One of the phones I'm looking at is sort of an oddball: a Xiaomi Mi 5. It has fantastic specs, excellent critical reception, and a great price. The only problem is, it's only compatible with Koodo's 3g bands. In terms of internet speed, that's not really an issue for me, as I seldom use data, but I'm wondering, does Koodo's 3g cover everywhere their 4g does? Kind of a dumb question, I know, but I'm not too informed on how mobile networks work.
Also, will 3g be around for another 2-3 years while I have this phone? I'm assuming it will be, after all, CDMA is still around (for now,) but you can't be too sure.
Thanks for your help :)!
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Allan, Mobile Master

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All that Koodo seems to have is coverage maps for 4g. Also CDMA will stop being supported June 2017. Someone may be able to give you more insight on 3g coverage but here are the maps provided by koodo. http://help.koodomobile.com/coverage-...
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It's a marketing thing that most carriers do. HSPA of any type is 3G. LTE is true 4G tech but unless it's LTE-advanced it technically doesn't meet the specs for 4G.
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Goran, Tech Crunch says this: 4G: Fourth Generation. This term is (like the others) essentially a marketing term when emplyed by carriers. As the different carriers and telecoms roll out faster data networks, some thought they would own the “4G” term by applying it to their network, though the name has little to do with the actual capabilities. While the actual term “4G” has been standardized to mean something none of them offer yet, what you’ll likely be sold on is one of the following:
HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA, HSPA+: High Speed Download/Upload Packet Access (+ designates the “Evolved” newer spec). This is a major upgrade to existing 3G networks that allows for (but does not currently actually show) speeds up to 21Mbps at the moment. T-Mobile is using this, and the G2 is currently the only phone using the network, though the MyTouch 4G will as well when it hits the streets. I found my speeds maxed out at about 8Mbps here in central Seattle, which is about as fast as the average broadband connection, and a huge improvement over 3G. The HSPA+ spec does allow for much higher bandwidths, but 21 appears to be the limit for the short- to medium-term.

So it looks to me like HSPA would be considered 4G...I hate to be that argumentative forum guy, but sadly for me, it looks like most 3G data uses GSM, UMTS, or CDMA...so in that case I'm thinking I shouldn't risk the Xiaomi after all...
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The Xiaomi phone will most likely work. http://willmyphonework.net/ indicates that it'll work on 3G. 4G/LTE is backwards compatible with 3G, but not with CDMA. This means a CDMA phone cannot connect to 4G towers, but a 3G phone can connect to 4G towers. 2G=EDGE (enhanced GSM), which is also backwards compatible with 3G/4G, but not supported by Koodo's network.

Why not get an LTE phone and enjoy faster data? Is the Mi 5 that good a deal? Are you getting it for a dime or dirt cheap?

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GSM is 2G. HSPA OR HSPA+ or HSPA-Dc sometimes get known as 3.5g or something like that to differentiate from the original 3G tech but it's still 3G spec. I'll say again, the ITU-R organization defines the telecommunications standards for the world and HSPA is very much still 3G. LTE-A is the first Telecom tech that meets the 4G definition of 100mbps high mobility. It's nowhere near 1gbps low mobility yet but whatever. I'd call it good enough.

Titaniumtux, the xiaomi mi 5 is a great line for cheap. You can have a SD820, 3/32gb phone for 220usd right now that's been reviewed well and feels quite flagship level. Ivan has one. I have their midrange redmi note 3 pro. They're getting popular here in NA because of the great specs for the price.
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Thanks for all the help guys! I think I'll go for an LG V10 over the Xiaomi for a few reasons.
-4G LTE
-QHD display
-Better camera
-0% chance of malware (some MI 5 phones suck for this)
-Cool stuff like 2 FFCs, secondary display
-Expandable storage, removable battery.
That said, the Xiaomi does have a wicked processor/graphics card, and is around $75 CAD less.
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Here, i found 3g coverage maps for telus. Since koodo mostly uses telus towers this should be good enough for what youre looking for.
http://static.telus.com/common/images...
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That said, (and I realize we're deviating from the original topic,) would you guys go for a V10 or a Mi5? The V10 is $75 more, but that's not a big deal, really.