Nexus 4: Can't Send/Receive Pictures Without Data Turned On

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I own a Nexus 4 and like the title states, I can't send or receive pictures through text without data turned on. The problem is, I don't have data as a part of my plan, but unlimited texting is.

My question is, will I be charged if I simply turn the data on when receiving/sending texts? Because my phone is still measuring that data is being used.

Or is there any other way to go around having to turn the data on?

If I have both data and WiFi on, will data be used?
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Here's what you need to know

USING YOUR DATA ONLY FOR PICTURE MESSAGING (MMS)

Brought to you by: The Koodo Mobile Masters with special thanks to Paul and Timo Tuokkola.

SIM CARD BASED phones require a data connection in order to send picture messages. So if you, have data turned off or blocked these messages won't go through. "But wait" you say "My plan includes unlimited text and picture messaging and I want to use it but I don't want data because I feel it's too expensive (or whatever)". The Mobile Masters have your solution below.

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FOR ANDROID DEVICES -=- (for iphone 3GS see Note 2)

STEP 1:

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Navigate to your current messaging app and delete any picuture message you previously tried to send but has failed.

Navigate to Settings / Wireless controls / Mobile networks / access point names

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METHOD 1.
Find the Koodo.sp Apn and tap it to open it. Some phones will allow you to edit this APN, for those phones which will not allow you to edit the default APN (I.E the Samsung Galaxy S2x or The Galaxy Ace 2x), please skip to Method 2.

Tap APN type and change it so it reads only "mms" then tap the menu key and select save APN
once saved the 4g indicator should disappear. Please see: Note 1

METHOD 2

You'll be creating two APN's

Add the first apn (usually by hitting the menu key and tapping ADD NEW)

Note: in the example below please omit the spaces between the http: and the address This is done because some websites shorten URL's

Input the following settings (leaving designated fields blank):

APN NAME: Koodo (NoData)
APN: spp.koodo.com
Proxy server:
Port:
Username:
Password:
Server:
MMSC:
Proxy server:
Port:
MCC : 302
MNC : 220
APN type : default

For APN Type we use "default" for this example but if it doesn't work for you go back and change it to "Internet"
Save this entry (usually by hitting the menu key and selecting SAVE)

Now create a Second APN using the following settings

APN Name: Koodo MMS ALLOW
APN: sp.koodo.com
Proxy server: 74.49.0.18
Port: 80
Username:
Password:
Server:
MMSC: http: //aliasredirect.net/proxy/koodo/mmsc
Proxy server: 74.49.0.18
Port: 80
MCC : 302
MNC : 220
APN type :mms

Now save this entry as you did the first.

On the list of available Access Point Names you'll notice three (or more) entries. Select the "Koodo (NoDATA)" apn and make it active (you'll notice you can not choose the Koodo MMS ALLOW entry)

Exit the APN menu.
Reboot the phone (Shut it off and turn it back on)
Turn off your WiFi

Do you have data enabled?
You can enable data by navigating Settings / Wireless and networking / Mobile Network

Make sure 'use packet data' or enable data' is checked.

If you have data blocked by Koodo you'll need to unblock it. You'll have to call customer service (1-866-99-Koodo) to have the block removed.

After Data is Enabled:

Open your browser and attempt to access any webpage OTHER THAN GOOGLE. You should get a message that the page cannot be displayed. If you do happen to get a web page double check your APN settings and try again.

Note 1: (For Everyone to read)
You'll notice the 3G or 4G data indicator has disappeared leaving only the Signal strength indicator. IF YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY TRIED AND FAILED TO SEND PICTURES IT MAY TAKE A FEW MINUTES FOR THE INDICATOR TO DISAPPEAR. When you do send a picture the Data indicator will re-appear and the picture should be sent. Same when you get a picture message.

Note 2: (iPhone 3Gs)
Apparently the APN is not easly configurable. You may need to be Jail Broken and download an APP called "Tetherme" which will allow you to edit the APN as per Method 2 (Thanks DJMcPimpin's Sister)
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Woah, that's awesome. Good job!
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Uh, oh.. here we go again.

http://community.koodomobile.com/kood...

The above works on older phones, but not the Nexus apparently.
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Oops! I'll know next time!
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Everything we know is only good till there's a next time... and the only thing guaranteed is that there always is a next time. Thanks for all your work above, Robert.
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@ Joanna just curious....before you posted your question did you not see answers to your question already? Some of us here are interested in figuring out why people rather post than clicking on existing answers. Thanks for letting us know!
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The minute you turn anything into a personal challenge, then logic and helpfulness go out the window...

IMO, there are NO stupid questions, just answers I haven't seen before. Sooner or later enough of these answers start perking up so that we might actually think they are true.

This pic message issue if FAR from solved, unless I'm hopelessly mistaken.
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Strikes me it would be simplified if the carriers stated something along the lines of MMS being 'unlimited within a data plan', in similar fashion as we understand unlimited long distance is within your minutes plan.

Yes, I know folks are confused by the unlimited LD, too, but it seems less so than MMS.
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Hi Joanna,

Koodo's network can detect when you're sending a picture message and it is that portion of data that is not chargeable to you. However, when you turn on data to send a picture message, any apps or services that are scheduled to download updates will use the data in the background and you will be charged for the data usage.

Your best option is to turn off the features that allow for apps to automatically update.

1). Open Play Store from your phone and tap the menu icon in the upper left hand corner of your screen (three stacked horizontal bars) then tap Settings.

2). Under the heading, Auto-update apps, choose either 'Do not auto update apps' or 'Auto-update apps over Wi-Fi only'.

3). Install a data enabler/toggle widget on your Home Screen. It's basically an on/off switch so that you can instantly tell when data is enabled or disabled and you won't have to search through pages of settings to turn off mobile data. Works like a charm and I've been using it for a few years now.

Data Enabler Widget
https://play.google.com/store/apps/de...

If you have a small amount of data to play with (e.g., 50 or 100 MB) I would suggest choosing 'Do not auto-update apps'. I've never lost a single megabyte of data with this setting. If you have a reliable internet/Wi-Fi network at home, then use the setting, auto-update apps over Wi-Fi only. Again, I've used this setting with zero data loss.

To answer your last question, if you have both Wi-Fi and mobile data on simultaneously and you get out of range of the Wi-Fi signal, or the source of your internet gets interrupted, your phone will automatically switch over and use data. It's best to turn off data when its not needed and use the settings mentioned previously, to avoid any unexpected charges.
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Excellent advice. You should post this as an "idea" and hopefully it will end up being a "sticky" or promoted.

Play Store settings is not generally known. Some navigation programs have tried to push 600+ Meg of new maps to me at once, but at least have the decency to ask!

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