New phones are way to expensive

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New phones like Samsung S4, and the new iPhones are way to expensive, even with the tab. I get the fact that you can choose a large tab and add extra to your monthly bill, but then you are just paying a ridiculous amount for your monthly bill. Maybe you should look at doing contracts or something else because nobody wants to pay $500 plus a monthly plan for a phone...
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Well the thing about not having a contract is the freedom to manage your plan. those 3 year contract plans for higher end devices almost always tend to be over 40 dollars at the least. I don't think its that ridiculous when you get a tab medium for example and you are guaranteed to clear the tab within 24 months. You could stick with a 30$ dollar plan and add 5 on top for the tab charge and thats it .Also tab contributions are 15% on medium so actually you're just paying a lot upfront, in the long run I say tab is better than fixed term.
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Phone pricing is set by the manufacturer. If you want a subsidized phone then plan pricing increases to make up for the subsidy. Koodo tries to stand out with no contracts but offers a tab instead. I admit that the Tab L along with the Tab L plans are not the best, but pay for your phone outright and you can get any plan you want plus 10% off.
When people have to buy their own phones I bet they will treat them better.
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" [...] I bet they will treat them better. "

Finally! I've seen way too many careless and clumsy people lose, drop, break, wash or otherwise destroy their $700 devices. People have had the mindset for a long time that phones were free, but they never were. People threw them in lakes only to find themselves angry at the rep because he wouldn't give them another "free phone". If I win a new car, that automatically gives me the right to destroy it, right?

In any way, if you people carry a $700 device in your pocket, treat it as you would 700 real dollars in your pocket. I doubt you'd "lose" or "wash" 700 bucks and excuse it with carelessness!
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Koodo is the Tab version of Telus. If you want the same service but with contracts, go to Telus. Mind you, their pricing structure for service is a bit different.

BTW, under the new CRTC wireless code, companies are now restricted to contract discounts.
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While I do agree that the newer smartphones are too expensive, there's really only one thing that can be done to actually change that. That being, don't buy them.

Whether you buy your phone outright, or subsidize with a Tab or a contract the manufacturer always gets the money they asked for the phone so they can charge whatever they want.

Credit, of any kind, ruins any market. The same thing happens with furniture, thanks to "no interest financing" you can be expected to pay over $1000 for a bed. But if everyone stopped living beyond their means the price of, well, everything will shoot right down.
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Agreed! There is a small twist to this though, and it's a concerning one. Many consumers who want a product (anything, really) will gladly wait until a new one is out to buy the last one for a lesser price. Some manufacturers have decided to pull old stock from the shelves rather than sell it for less when an updated product comes out. So instead of waiting for a better price, you find yourself having to pay the same price if you still really want the product. The only other alternative would be the used market, but then again, it has its risks. The ultimate alternative is just what you suggested though: do without!
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Whether it is a Tab system or a contract, it is a numbers game. In the end, YOU are going to pay for the phone somehow. The question for you is how you want to pay for it:
- You can pay a higher upfront cost for the phone, in exchange for a lower monthly plan cost.
- You can pay a lower upfront cost for the phone, in exchange for a higher monthly plan cost.

Whether they call it a Tab or a contract, it is still a wolf dressed as a sheep or a lamb. Pick your poison, but you'll still be paying for the phone.
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And really, there's no such thing as a free phone. If you want to gt a cell phone, you will have to purchase it. It's no different than going in and purchasing a TV.

I will never understand this "I want a fee phone" mentality.
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Unless the phone is incapable of calling & texting, then it's doing it's job. The rest is just fluff. I have my Nexus S and it's still going pretty decently. I may not be able to get the latest games, but I can still call & text. The only thing that pains me with my Nexus S is the low amount of ram, but that's managable.
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Oh yeah?

I'm still using my Samsung u410, that I bought full price by the way, that I've had since August 2009. And it still works great. Sure it won't charge while sitting on a flat surface anymore, but I'm not upgrading until it dies entirely.

EDIT: Not that I'm having an "old phones" competition, or anything.
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Dear god, how is your u410 still working? That's amazing actually. The u410 was a great little phone. My first love was my LG Keybo. Thing was amazing for texting.
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It's a simple process of a) taking care of the the phone and b) not caring about minor issues like the aforementioned not charging on a flat surface and the buttons on the left side being a little unresponsive.
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My wife was annoyed when she had to upgrade her Samsung A660 because the mobile company was discontinuing analog service. Apparently no one was using analog (I knew one person. Her.). Anyway, the phone could call and text so she was happy with it. It just had to be plugged in at home and in the car because the battery was shot.
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You get what you pay for, so if you want a good phone your going to have to pay for it. Your better to pay for the phone and get a reasonable price on your service than get a phone for $0 and pay a much higher price for your service.
Save up for the pbone you want and pay for it in full or the lowest tab you possibly can & youll be paying much less from koodo or any carrier. #NothingInLifeIsFree
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I wish I can star this more than once.

If you cant afford a top of the line phone, then save up to get a cheaper phone. If you cant even save up for that, maybe you need to get your financial priorities in place before signing up for service.
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We need to remind ourselves that we do not NEED expensive phones. Yes, I always prefer a flagship model but I can afford it. If need be, I could feet by with my cheap Lumia 520.
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The Lumia 520 and all the low and mid-end Lumia's are miles ahead better value than any Android/Apple device on the market. With GDR3 coming shortly, and 3rd party apps like 6tag, HERE drive and Microsoft Office, the WP8 platform is fantastic.
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I found koodo service good and some resonalble plans. But I don't like the phones and its pricing. Koodo carry cheap phones and high pricing. Cheap in the sense outdated, except iphone and you all knows iphones are useless phones.
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"nearly the same in terms of specs"

We all talk about specs but when you go for the real experience, there is a huge difference between the Nexus 4 and the iPhone 5. If specs meant everything, then the iPhone would suck so much compared to all the Androids but they don't because they don't really mean much. Tons of Androids have amazing specs but their speed and performance is way behind the iPhone's performance.

You get what you pay for. That is the rule.
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I totally agree with John, the iPhone 5s is much faster and benchmarks higher than the GS4 and Nexus 4 although i suspect it might be be because apple designs both hardware and software. Specs are only relevant when disputing between phones on the same operating system, you can't compare a similarly specced android with an iPhone.
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Don't get your point here John Lee behind what your saying, nobody was talking about comparing Android to iPhone or specs at all. Can you explain where this comment comes from exactly?
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above myke compares nexus 4 to iphone 5 i believe this is what drove John's point
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He's saying they have comparable performance but the iPhone is over twice the price. So not really spec wise but real world performance is pretty much the same but apple rips your wallet a new one when it comes to cost of the two.
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Ok, phones are getting more expensive. I get that.

However, do you get that there is more technology involved? Bigger internal drives, faster CPUs, internal memory, and of course more software? More software means more algorithms. Algorithms to make things more responsive, more battery conscious, more productive, more in-tune to other software on the device.

More productivity means more people who need to program. Programmers who want a slice of the metaphorical pie. Do you think this comes free? Of course not. They want a slice. A slice meaning whenever they program, they patent. Patent licensing costs money. Do you see where I am going?

You are now buying a mini computer. A computer that probably has more features than your laptop from two years ago. Unless you spent $4k for one. But then again, "we" are complaining about a laptop or notebook computer that cost $4k 2 years ago, not a handheld device from now that costs upto $1k today.

You want more memory? You pay for it. You want a faster processor? You pay for it. You want a device that can handle apps from multiple developers to work together and do what you want when you're on the move? You pay for it. You want cross-platform support, so you can use a Blackberry, Android or iOS device? Guess what? You pay for the license.

Don't like it? Buy a clone and figure out how to get it to work, buy an older model (hey, can't afford this years BMW M5, buy one from a few years ago), or stick to what you can afford this year (nothing wrong with a Toyota Corolla over BMW).

& if that wasn't enough, you got the new CRTC Wireless Code to deal with, which limits the discounts carriers can provide. Don't believe it? Read up on it then:

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/201...

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