it would be nice if some day we had unlimited data

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i just think it should go back to the old days of when we just paid one price for unlimited internet "data" instead of paying for and deciding on how much data you have and want.
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Dreaming is always nice feeling, I do not know if other providers are providing unlimited Data, if yes, then it'll be against huge cost.
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AT&T came out publicly a couple of years ago stating that they had underestimated the amount of data people with iPhones would consume every month. They stopped offering unlimited data plans because of that (and greed too, don't forget greed).

You can bet you won't see unlimited data again from major carriers anytime soon. Oh, and it's worth mentioning that the features people need the most are the least affordable. See how voice and long distance options got cheaper once people started texting in masses? Same for data... As long as demand will be strong, data will be expensive.

I applaud Wind for their effort regarding this issue. However, considering the coverage they have... it takes away from the shiny deal they have!
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Wind offers unlimited data for $40 so it is quite possible.
I doubt any of the big 3 (or their subsidiaries) will do it because they don't want to make less profit.
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Wind also has a very small network and you pay roaming fees for data when not on your towers. Pretty useless for anyone who travels or lives outside a Wind zone. You can bet if they had a real network they wouldn't be offering the same deal.
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Can only profit to customers that are within Wind coverd zone but not to others, useless like you said
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I believe this all depends on if and how big Wind expands its service. Right now wind has unlimited data but its only inside their own coverage area, but if they expand (which they are doing slowly) greatly then others are going to have to follow suit and offer unlimited as well. Unfourtunately this all is not going to happen for quite along time still, if wind even gets to that point. Only time will tell and we'll all just have to wait and see. -KID ANDROID (Team.Android.Canada)
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Not trying to incite the forums again ;)

In my opinion carriers in this country will never offer unlimited data again. A friend of mine was on unlimited data through Bell and was migrated out of it when he upgraded to a Galaxy Nexus from a Palm Pre. All comes down to supply and demand:

A few years ago, data was a bit of an afterthought, text/minutes were still the primary currency used by phones - hence high consumer demand which gives way to less services for more money. Full blown data use resulted in less consumer demand, and lower charging as the market did not "need" it. The infrastructure to actually use data was not fully in place.

Fast forward to today - everyone is offering unlimited minutes/text plans at a relatively low cost. However data has become what consumers want, hence the price increases for less overall data.

It is just my opinion that unlimited data will not be offered in much a similar fashion as unlimited any time minutes were not offered 3-4 years ago.

Will this cycle again perhaps? Who knows - market demand dictating more and more demand for data indicates that the data component of cellphone bills will continue to increase as voice/text services drop off.
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My Sister has a plan through another company which is unlimited everything including data right now..
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Ya that company is probably wind and it's a great deal if you don't leave their coverage area which in Ontario is pretty much in Toronto and along HWY 400 North to Barrie, and if you leave that zone you are charges per my of data used (no longer unlimited) and per text and per minute. They unlimited usage is very restricted and a lot of ppl find out the hard way when they recieve an enormous bill thinking it's unlimited everywhere you go.
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We live in Fredericton and she is with Virgin Mobile.. It's unlimited anywhere's in Canada.. She is charged for any usage in the US
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And her data speeds are most likely throttled, because no service provider offers unlimited data without capping it some how.
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First off Unlimited isn't unlimited:
http://www2.windmobile.ca/wind%20docs...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/1/2835...

If you use too much they'll weight you down like a champion horse. Now the average user probably won't go over 1 gig right now but if we all committed to high usage the infrastructure could be built
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Please don't agro old threads that has already been labeled as "not planned"
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@Geoff. It's still unlimited. Under Wind's fair usage policy, Wind simply throttles back download speeds. if a subscriber exceeds the 5 or 10 GB data usage caps, to 256 kbps. You still have unlimited data, but at a ridiculously lesser throughput.

Wind reserves the right to throttle back download speeds even further, to 32 kbps, if they see that you regularly exceed your data usage cap. Again, it's not lightning fast throughput and Wind continues to provide data, just at an even lesser rate.
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@Erwin Geoff didn't bump this, the poster above (Tara) did.
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@Erwin, my response was more towards the post of a Mobile Master, you can see who posted what and when based on times above. While Erwin stated it was Tara, you'll see another who led those to believe that Wind while stated as Unlimited...well based on the math isn't...but really, what is unlimited? I mean speed of say 25 mbs, at 31 days in a month,....that's not unlimited
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It's actually a lot less than 25 Mbps. Wind's data download speed is 7 Mbps or less. I've never seen 25 Mbps with Koodo, speeds typically sit between 12 and 14 Mbps and I've yet to see my S2x max out at the 42 Mbps, advertised on the manufacturers website.

At 7 Mbps or less, it's difficult to fathom how one could possibly exceed a 10 GB data cap in the space of one month, let alone a 5 GB data cap. Wind is confident that very few subscribers will exceed their data usage caps. Download speeds of 7 Mbps or less would explain why.

Wind doesn't suspend or cut-off data, they simply reduce throughput to a crawl, therefore data remains unlimited.
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Even AT&T decided to start throttling their customers who still have grandfathered unlimited data plans. They also made it so that in order for those customers to upgrade or change sim cards, they were forced to get a new plan. AT&T still sells "unlimited" service through MVNO agreements but with vague TOS that allow them to once again throttle the speed of the service down to a crawl. The only decent provider is T-Mobile, who still offers unlimited data at 4glte speeds. Even their prepaid service's TOS is vastly superior to AT&T. Its just a shame their 4g coverage isn't as wide spread. My opinion.
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I like the idea of throttling back the speed after a certain quota - that's the way I've seen it done in several other counties and it seems to work well there for people that don't want data overage charges and it also prevents abuse and even if you do use up your quota there is more than enough limited bandwidth left to let the email flow.
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How does one abuse something which us unlimited?
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Actually the device imei is transmitted to the carrier. They know what you're using
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Chad correct, your ISP knows what device your using and exactly what your looking at or downloading from the net, I called Rogers about our home Internet having a speed issue and they knew exactly what site I visited most and that I was downloading movies and TV shows and which ones from said site. it's kind of scary lol.
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Kid, that's why you use TOR :)
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TOR, What's TOR?
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Have a look! Certain custom firmwares (depending on the router you use) even have this built-in, you just need to enable/configure it. I personally use Gargoyle (based on OpenWRT) on a Netgear WNDR3700.

https://www.torproject.org/

You can also use it on a single PC if you don't want to mess around with your router.
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I don't need unlimited data.

My data usage when I was with Wind was ~2.5 GB/month, and that was because I never bothered with WiFi. I've not yet exceeded my 2 GB allowance in a month on Koodo.

I'm fine with "unlimited" models that employ throttling. Then, you can have paid add-ons for those that "need" more full-speed data.

That being said, we do need more data. No plan should come with less than 500 MB. I'd like to see the following, and I do think it's reasonable:

$35: 200 min, 150 MB > $30: 250 min, 500 MB
$39: 400 min, 600 MB > $35: 500 min, 1GB
$50: 300 min, 500 MB > $40: 1000 min, 2 GB
$60: unl. min, 2 GB > $45: unl. min, 3 GB
$75: unl. min, 3 GB > $50: unl. min, 5 GB

You'll see these prices someday, especially if Wind stays in Canada and continues its expansion which will continue the pressure on the Big 3 discount brands.
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What's eastlink?
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Tekksavvy grandfathered unlimited plan ftw.
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Geoff: Eastlink is another telecom provider. They also bought some AWS spectrum back in 2008. They're mostly present in the Maritimes.
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Ahhh I am out in the West, and if it's past Quebec...it's just a place I can use to see Primetime TV a few hours early from
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They also cover Grande Prairie, AB. They have a very weird coverage map, lol!
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On my end, I would like to exchange my voice time for more data. I have 450 minutes and 500 MB. I would be more than OK if it were only 120 minutes and 1 GB.
I don't use my minutes at all, maybe Koodo should allow clients to exchange minutes for data. Or juste make new plans that meet this demand.

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