go back to double minute plan in march 2013

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verizon coming to canada your new plans are over priced go back t0 the double minutes you offered in march 2013
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Hans klay Klay

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This was fun to write!

1. The double minutes/data thing was a promotion. I started with Mobile Shop when there was only one Tab of $150 with a 10% contribution and the $25 voice plan had only 100 minutes with unlimited evenings/weekends at 7pm with CD/VM included. You still had to add $5 for unlimited messages. So if you look at the plans now, we've pretty much come full circle, but the plan now has evenings/weekends at 5PM.

On top of that, the original Tab (now rebranded small) is still available but even better - it now has a 15% contribution AND the Tab is wiped after 24 months, regardless of any balance remaining!

2. Koodo had to make changes to be CRTC compliant. By wiping any remaining tab balance after 24 months, that is extra money that Koodo has to write off for a lot of customers that they never needed to before, so to make up that expense, the rate plans increased slightly and tab charges were implemented to keep the profits up.

3. Verizon is not coming to Canada yet. There is no confirmation of that deal ever passing yet.

4. Even if Verizon does come to Canada, I can guarantee you that there is no way we'll see the same prices/plans that the U.S. has because the U.S. has TEN TIMES the population that we do and less sparsely populated areas. They have a much higher subscriber base to work with, so they can afford to cut margins closer.
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Oh yeah, the Verizon thing.

I wonder what makes people think that a foreign company will bring a Golden Age to cellular service. (Especially an American one, but I'll save the anti-commercialism rant.)

Has nobody asked what towers Verizon would use if they came to Canada? to build their own seems like an unlikely prospect - what with government construction regulations, towers already being there and people in rural communities willing to fight to keep new towers away if the service is already fine - so they'll like be using Roger's, Bell/Telus towers.

I imagine the exchange going something like this:
"Welcome to Canada, Verizon Wireless!"
"Thanks Canadian government, I'll just set up some towers here and there and everywhere and we'll be good-to-go."
"Ah-ah-ah, what're you doing? Canada has enough cell towers already, just use some of those."
"Oh. Okay. Hey Bell, can I use your towers?"
"Sure! At a certain percentage of your profits, of course."
"Of course, how much?"
"Just let me do the math...Okay, this much" *hands Verizon a paper*
"This is ridiculous, I'll never profit off this."
"It's that or nothing."
"Fine."
"Hey Roger's, can I use your towers?"
"Sure! At a certain percentage of your profits, of course."
"Of course, how much?"
"Just let me do the math...Okay, this much" *hands Verizon a paper*
"This is ridiculous, I'll never profit off this."
"It's that or nothing."
"FINE."
"Hey Telus, can I use your towers?"
"See Bell's response."
"ARGH! I'm out."

And this is why cell service in Canada is broken.
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Those plans were promotional and possibly were only available for so long because the new plans with the new Tab were supposed to be available sooner but were constantly delayed. (That's just me speculating, don't quote me on it.)

Sorry if you missed the promotion dates, but I'd say with the overall negative reaction to the new plans they'll be tweeked eventually.

At least for BYOD customers, please, if you subsidize your phone you should expect to pay, but don't punish the BYOD guys.
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It's the data that took the biggest hike... from $30 for 3GB (+$5 per 500MB) to $15 for 250MB (+$5 per 250MB).

In the past I'd recommend the flex plans almost more than the data plans especially to people who were more interested in data than minutes, but now the Talk&Text plans are exactly that: only useful for people who are not in the least bit interested in data.

Even if the minutes promo plans come back, I don't think data will be affordable again... which I think is rather sad considering how data hungry most smartphones are becoming!

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