fewer towers to bounce off????

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I have the samsung Ace 11. It says that 4G is what I get my data from when I'm not on wifi.
could someone clarify 3G, 4G, HTC for me?... I live in Brockville ON, and the data is REALLLLLY slow. is it because there are fewer towers to bounce off?
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3G, 4G and LTE simply refers to the wireless telecom technology in use. 3G is the slowest and LTE being (currently) the fastest.

3G and 4G are good for general Internet access and low-quality video streaming. LTE would be necessary if you wanted HD quality videos. For most Internet uses (email, social media, messaging, etc... except video streaming), the difference in perceived speed is not significant. With the increase in streaming media, LTE was necessary to cope with the increase in data traffic.

As for th slowness in your area, it is due to a variety of factors. The biggest factor would be the number of users in the area using data at the same time. If many people are accessing data simultaneously, the bandwidth needs to be "split" amongst all of them and everyone will see slower access. It's like trying to evacuate a room through one door. If there are only 5 people, it will be FAST. If there are 200 people trying to get out all at once, it will take some time.
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I understand the concept of the band width, thank you,.

I would like to elaborate now though. It doesn't matter what time of day it is, there fore I'm not convinced this is the problem. I also asked at another kiosk, they said that the samsung that I have isn't set up for 4G....only 3G...any more thoughts?
you obviously know what you are talking about, not sure the kiosk I visited does.
and......is there another phone you might suggest. I text, play candy crush, four square, rarely stream videos unless I am at home. I really love the battery life of this and charging is fast. torn.
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3G is the same speed tier (and actually the same network level) as 4G, with a major but generally unadvertised difference: "4G", as carriers and phones display it as, is actually basically 3G+, up to 42mbps.

LTE is the real big difference, starting at 75mbps; if you're on Rogers or Fido and have a 2600 mhz phone like the Desire 601, Optimus G (first phone in Canada to offer it), G2, Z1, Note 3, etc. than you can get up to 150mbps and possible higher as the network evolves, which is faster than most home internet packages but eats up your battery.

Generally speaking, the staff were correct in saying that the Ace II X doesn't support up to H+ I think, let alone LTE.

If you want a device more capable of keeping up with your games and browsing, I think you're better off upgrading to something like the Desire 601 or S III. Both support LTE data speeds, have faster dual-core processors, more RAM, bigger screens, and more internal storage space.

The battery life is better on the Desire thanks to its nearly identical sized battery but paired with a slightly underpowered, smaller screen and yet kept it more than capable than the Ace II X. It's a pretty underrated phone and it's a good price.

If you're on a tighter budget, it's hard not to recommend the Moto G. HD screen and quad core Snapdragon 400 packed into a tight, solid package of almost stock KitKat goodness. It's only downsides, if these are important to you, are its weak camera, non removable battery, and low storage space of 8Gb with no microSD slot, which both of the previous phones I mentioned support.
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While it may seem slow it's because it is. According to GSM arena the maximum download speed that the Ace 11x supports is 7.2 mbps. In real world usage you're probably only able to get 1-2.
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what about the LG nexus 4?
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Significantly better than the Ace II X in pretty much every category: 1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 Pro processor, 2GB of RAM, high-resolution screen and size, bigger battery. It has 16GB of storage but it doesn't have a removable battery or micro SD slot (if that's important to you) and while it doesn't have LTE, it does do HSPA+, which is fast enough data speeds for most people. Plus it comes unlocked and support all 5 HSPA bands should you need to travel outside of Canada.
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Thank you everyone on this forum page, you have made my experience so much easier.
I have purchased the Nexus 4....so far I love it... just whirrs through updates, pages are so much quicker etc.etc. I guess the processor is the key to all my problems!!! you get what you pay for!!!
and only $5.00 more on my plan with Koodo!!
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It's the RAM that's even more important than the CPU. Hard for a Nexus 4 not to beat an Ace II. Glad you're enjoying the switch.
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It wasn't just the processor/ram. Those will help make navigating the menus and such go faster. For your actual data speeds it's the "modem" in the phone basically. Since the Ace IIx only supported up to 7.2 mbps, and the Nexus 4 supports up to 42 mbps you should be seeing your internet go roughly 6 times faster simply as a result of that.
I have the Ace 11 and I hate how slow it is. I am thinking of changing to an iphone. Any thoughts. My kids have iphones and said I would be sorry I didn't get one. I liked the Ace 11 at first, but now I have all I can do not to throw it in the river.
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I don't blame you; the Ace II X was/is a low end budget Android, which have traditionally been less than stellar. iPhones are always "good" because they cost an arm and a leg but I think they're very overpriced and have too many limitations. The app selection is very good and their extended warranty is one of my favorites, but that's where my likes for iPhone end.

Any information/suggestions you need on a new device? What's your budget (if you're using the Tab)?
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Hi Kathleen, I think it's definitely time for an upgrade. The Moto G for example, is an entry level quad-core Android device, which would be a significant upgrade from your Ace 2x. It lacks expandable storage (microSD card slot), but if that's not a concern, the Moto G is probably one of the best devices out there for the price.

Motorola Moto G
https://shop.koodomobile.com/koodo-ce...

The Nokia Lumia 635 (Windows Phone) is another worthy contender and includes an expandable storage slot. I normally lean more toward Android, but the Lumia 635 has proven to be quite an amazing device, despite having less than a gigabyte of RAM. With an affordable price tag, this device might be worth looking into if you're looking for an entry-level Windows phone.

Nokia Lumia 635
https://shop.koodomobile.com/koodo-ce...

You're already familiar with the Android platform, so if you're looking for something that will blow the iPhone out of the water (in my opinion) and make your kids forever envious, opt for the HTC One M8. A sleek flagship phone with guaranteed Android updates, expandable storage and plenty of computing and battery horsepower to name just a few features. The HTC One M8 must be seen to be truly appreciated.

HTC One M8
https://shop.koodomobile.com/koodo-ce...

In the end, it really comes down to how you intend to use the phone and what your budget will allow. I have all of the phones mentioned in this article which gave me the opportunity to put each and every one of them through their paces. I would have no trouble recommending any of these phones to you, but the choice is ultimately yours.

More Koodo phones
https://shop.koodomobile.com/phones/m...
Thanks for the information. You have given me some choices to check out. I will likely go with a tab, or tab plus 100-200 dollars if that is an option. Definitely can't afford to pay 500-600 dollars upfront for a phone. I guess I will have to go shopping and check them out.

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