CWM backup without flashing or unlocking bootloader

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I downloaded CWM for Moto G from http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager. My intent was to backup the entire phone, including the ISP's ROM, before rooting or even unlocking the bootloader. I didn't know whether I could avoid unlocking the bootloader, but I was going try backing up without flashing to the device to see if it would let me. I put the phone in fastboot mode by holding down the power button and volume-down for 10 seconds. Then I issued the following from the command line (I'm using cygwin's bash shell, and the directory containing fastboot is in $PATH):

$fastboot boot recovery-clockwork-6.0.4.7-falcon.img
downloading 'boot.img'...
OKAY [ 0.310s]
booting...
FAILED (remote failure)
finished. total time: 0.313s

Is this the symptom of not having unlocked the bootloader?
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Posted 4 years ago

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You should really be looking in xda forums for a walk through on this. Many more answers there and tips from people who've been there and done that.
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Yes, but like I mentioned, my particular target seems to be less well discussed. Also, it's a forum where people with very big brains roost, and this particular question might be a bit naive for that forum. But I'll give it a try. Thanks.

BTW, is it breaking any rules to pose such questions in the Koodo forums?
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Not at all! You may even get your answer here. Tbh i rooted mine but I didn't bother backing up the stock rom because the stock rom was available online. I just downloaded a copy and saved it on a usb key.

If I remember correctly ADB is going to be your friend with the Moto G.

I just don't remember enough to be helpful.
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Even those of us that used to be avid "rooters" and "flashers" (now that one just sounds wrong, lol) have largely moved away from it as the OS evolved into including features that.

It's not that you can't ask here; it's just that you may be in for a very long wait of an answer (if you get one at all).

Don't let XDA intimidate you. Nobody started off as an expert in anything.
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Completely agree. NY Optimus One taught me much but my Alcatel One Touch Idol X+ doesn't need anything that rooting provides.
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My first opportunity to return to this topic today, will see how the XDA post went.

If the ISP's OS was hosted by an ISP site, I would find it more trustworthy. Coming from a different site, I have no idea how well controlled the content is, and its fidelity to the ISP OS. That's why I want to make my own backup.

My reason for going CyanogenMod has nothing to do with features, it is motivated by the fact that open source is far less likely to have questionable functionality than an opaque OS like the ISP's. I want to be able to store some pretty personal info on the device, so I am doing what I can to maximize the trust that I have in it. Since the whole exercise is because I don't find the ISP OS trustworthy enough, I don't feel that it would make sense to trust a backup from a site other than the ISP, which to me is even less trustworthy.

ADB is great if you don't want to back up everything, but I need CWM to backup everything.

I'm not sure that I will root the phone. Like using a normal computer, it's not a good idea operate with root by default.

Thanks, all.

Afternote: Looks like this question is either too naive for the more technical forums, or no one actually knows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/andro...
http://androidforums.com/android-syst...

I know from severl months of surfing (including the sites above) that this particular problem, with its particular conditions, is not that common a question.
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Looks like mfastboot doesn't work either. Same results. Next step: Unlock bootloader.....

Afternote: It worked! At the shell on the PC:
> $ fastboot oem unlock FLRPKG3ZYPCPLOBYXY3T
> ...
> (bootloader) Unlock code = FLRPKG3ZYPCPLOBYXY3T
> (bootloader) Unlock completed! Wait to reboot
> FAILED (status read failed (Too many links))
> finished. total time: 20.842s

The device rebooted into fastboot mode with the following details:
>
> Device is unlocked. Status Code: 3
>
> Fastboot Reason: UTAG *flashfail* configured as fastboot
> USB connected

I'm not too worried about the "status read failed" because others have encountered it [google "Rooting my Moto E out of the box (step by step)"]. Also, I'm not going to worry about the "UTAG *flashfail*" message just yet.

UNFORTUNATELY...

...booting CWM without flashing to the Moto G does not work:
> $ fastboot.exe boot recovery-clockwork-6.0.4.7-falcon.img
> downloading 'boot.img'...
> OKAY [ 0.300s]
> booting...
> OKAY [ 0.240s]
> finished. total time: 0.540s

The device simply boots up as normal. :(
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Correct. This answers your initial question.
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Yes...it contradicts testimonies that I've found in my web browsings, that you should be able to boot without flashing. It's also part of the fastboot help.

*sigh*.

So much for backing up the entire original state of the phone.

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