are you planning on making an unlimited everything plan anytime in the future?or maybe an unlimited data plan at least?

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i think it would be a great idea to have an unlimited data/text plan available. there are some people, a lot actually, that mostly use text and data, and not voice on their celphones. is there any way that you could make a plan that has something like that? or maybe a full unlimited plan for a flat rate? that would be good too.
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Right now data is hot and text and voice aren't really in demand. Some companies in the states once tried unlimited data and it was a major failure on the business side of things. Sure people loved it hut the networks were congested. I know times are different now but I don't expect to see unlimited data any time soon from any major carrier. I know some of the smaller carriers are doing it but their coverage is awful compared to the robellus networks.
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It would be nice to have a larger data-only offering. Right now, you need to pay the 15 dollar min prepaid fee then only 1gb booster. How about a 10GB plan?
I know people with turbo stick plans in their phones for data and sms only.
All carriers insist on bundling voice, and recently, pushed unlimited voice, long after our usage has shifted. Unlimited voice would have been nice in 2000s, when I made 100s of minutes a month.
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If you're a heavy data user then prepaid isn't for you. I know it's credit based so if that's your challenge then godspeed, but the postpaid plans offer way more data/$. If you barely talk, take the $25 Talk + Text with the pay-per-use... anywhere from 1GB to 3GB of data is only $30 extra per month and then it's $10/GB after that.

The only advantage prepaid has is that the unused amount rollsover - boosters don't expire until they're all used up (as long as your base plan is maintained), which is pretty sweet.
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I understand that the plans are geared this way, were if you do want alot of data, you need to get high or unlimited minutes.

I remember in 2008, I had very small voice minutes (100 local) but unlimited data. Yet, then, the most I ever used was 900MB but my voice minutes were in the high hundreds. Fast forward 5 years, and unlimited data doesn't exist (and I get why, it's so easy to abuse), but now they are pushing unlimited minutes on us, yet most people's voice has fallen. We went backwards.

The OP was looking for Data Only/SMS only, which Koodo doesn't offer. It would be nice to see reverse plans where there is small minutes and large data.

I remember Koodo had a 15 dollar plan (with no voicemail/cid), plus flex data, which was the cheapest way to go near data only.

For me personally, I find it upsetting that Koodo can offer unlimited minutes, cid/vm/sms and 5GB of data for Saskatchewan residents, yet Koodo/Telus don't have a single tower in that province. Everything is off their partner network. Yet, I live where there is Telus towers, but can't get near that amount of data for 60 bucks.
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4+ years back it was so easy to add 6GB of data for $30 (or less via retentions), but the minutes included in plans were pretty low. Fast forward to today and the minutes included in plans are unlimited nationwid,e but the data buckets are expensive and smaller.

Carriers will charge the most they possibly can for whatever service is the most in demand. People care less about airtime minutes now so the cost is low. Meanwhile, more and more people are using smartphones, which continue to use more and more data as technology and features advance, but the cost of data has increased and the amount of data available in packages has decreased, compared to plans 4+ years ago.

Moral of the story, if we want more data at a cheaper rate, we need to use less data. Which will never happen. Or we need competition in the marketplace.
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I had the original 30 for unlimited, but then switched it to the 6GB for 30 to tether. You are right on the mark, the carriers are promoting whatever service people use less and milking the portion that people use the most.
I remember unlimited sms on my Fido phone was 3 dollars a month... now carriers charge upwards of 15! (I know Koodo doesn't, but just case in point)
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I don't think I'll ever understand this need for big data amounts for mobile devices. Data on the go should be just that. If you wanna do video streaming then do it at home with an Internet Service Provider. To each their own sure, but really, aside from checking email, social media websites(facebook/twitter), what else do you exactly need 10 GB of data on a smartphone for?
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Thank you AlexiKrov! I use around 1GB each month but with WiFi available in many places now (including my house, which at that point I will just go on my computer), I don't have much of a need for more. Plus it eats up my battery quicker.

Don't get me wrong, I love having a smartphone with a data plan as it's saved me time in many circumstances and is quite useful for killing time, but I understand it's a luxury. I don't want to be anti-social playing on my phone or texting people when I'm at a restaurant or bar with my friends.
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I much rather use HSPA. Sure, I have Wifi on at home, but outside, I don't use public wifi. They are slow, prone to phishing and overall a general waste of time. HSPA is reliable, fast, and I don't expect my carrier to do anything malicious.
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I don't play games on my phone, hardly ever check social media, or partake in things that are generally considered to be "time wasting" or "anti-social".

What I do use my phone for are things that make my life easier and more productive. Emails (including viewing and editing attachments), GPS, general communication, Video calling when I have a specific purpose for needing to see something, uploading email attachments to my company's FTP, etc, etc, etc.

I use 3-5GB of LTE data per month. I'm on a 6GB plan so I'm fine. However, as phones continue to advance and features grow that can make me even more productive, so to will my data usage. 4 years ago I never used more then 2GB per month. Now I occasionally hit 5 or 6GB. In a year I expect to be using even more. Will the carriers adapt to the growing demands for higher data allowances? Or will they continue to sell and promote phones that need/require more data then ever, just to function as they're intended, while knowing they don't offer packages that include enough data to actually take advantage of this technology? Or will plans remain static and customers with have no choice but pay overage fees ? That's my concern.
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Does anyone know what the exact cost is for mobile data usage? And I don't mean delivery, I mean the upkeep of the servers to maintaining the lines, because I'm pretty sure that's a pretty big portion of it.
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Their is obviously a cost associated with developing and maintaining their network. But that's pretty negligible imo, the cost of that plus an insane markup is passed onto the consumers.

To put it in perspective, Telus just announced their Q1 2013 results a few weeks back. They made about $400 million PROFIT in the first 4 months this year. Doesn't seem like maintaining and developing their infrastructure is that much of a financial burden on them lol
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Agreed with you mattjs! Back in the days when voice minutes cost a fortune, towers and servers had to be maintained. They still have to, but now we have unlimited buckets of voice minutes. So either the maintenance team has gotten VERY good at their job and now only requires a single worker, or their wages have gone down dramatically. You have the same set of equipment, the same maintenance required, but much improved prices. The only way to explain this is simple: for years, we were overcharged for voice minutes, just like we are for data right now. Simple as that.
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If you look at the pre-paid carriers in the US such as boost mobile and straight talk those carriers have a flat rate system for their plans. Boost mobile has the $50 unlimited talk/text/data plan and if you make your payments on time they reduce the fee for your plan. Plus you can call canada from the US unlimited for $5 extra per month. There should be no reason why we can't have these plans in canada, we just have a bunch of greedy cell phone carriers. They need our money to put their names on buildings!!!
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That would explain people raving about Verizon's and Sprint's coverage across the US. A mature CDMA network will (likely) provide better coverage. However, I'll agree with Chad here, I use Roam Mobility when in the States, and they use T-Mo. Never a problem so far (I keep close to the cities and highways though).
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Wait a second, Verizon has a tier one network. And it's huge and nation wide
Boost isn't even allowed to roam on it. Verizon and sprint are very different.
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Ok, just cross the Sprint reference from my previous post, hehe :P All I hear is people staying on BigRed not because of their prices (they're known to be atrocious), but because they have coverage almost everywhere. I thought Sprint had an almost as large network. My bad!
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Someone slap me. Open mouth, insert foot. Apparently sprint has changed quite a bit since in last looked at their map.its extensive. However boost coverage map tells quite a different story
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lol, it happens to the best of us Chad, no need to insert foot anywhere :P I know too little about the US networks. I'll need to get myself together and get some more information before I post from now on :P
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Sprint is still cdma and very slow from my experience. My friend had virgin, another sprint mvno, and the voice quality was so terrible.
I always use T-Mobile. Yes, coverage is a bit spotty outside of metro, but within is good, fast and cheap.
In short, we pay more, but our quality is top notch. Better than any carrier down there, including big red.

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