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If the 25 dollar plan is not available anymore, is there any way I can still get it? I don't want to pay any higher than 25.


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Unfortunately the $30 is the cheapest you can get right now, Kristen. Have you considered Prepaid? Depending on your needs, that might be exactly what you want... base plan is $15 and then you buy voice and/or data boosters.
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Minimum Plan you can get if you're new customer is 30$, Koodo did grandfathered old Plans such as 20/25$.
Sophia wrote:

Unfortunately the $30 is the cheapest you can get right now, Kristen. Have you considered Prepaid...

Will the 25 dollar plan come back within the next 2 weeks?
MatB wrote:

Minimum Plan you can get if you're new customer is 30$, Koodo did grandfathered old Plans such as...

So there is no way I can still get one for 25 dollars if I am new to Koodo?
Sophia wrote:

Unfortunately the $30 is the cheapest you can get right now, Kristen. Have you considered Prepaid...

No one knows for sure. Rate plans are subject to change at anytime. It's best to keep an eye on Koodo's website for rate plan changes.
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Minimum Plan you can get if you're new customer is 30$, Koodo did grandfathered old Plans such as...

The plan you want is at fido http://www.fido.ca/web/page/portal/Fido/MonthlyPlans/Group1
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Sophia wrote:

Unfortunately the $30 is the cheapest you can get right now, Kristen. Have you considered Prepaid...

Generally, once a new price standard is set, you don't see carriers revert back. Usually, they will do promotions where they offer you more minutes or data, but the prices remain. Like has been mentioned, Fido has the equivalent plan you are looking for, and if you don't text much, Chatr would be another option for unlimited incoming and outgoing minutes. Why not just go with one of them?
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You have to consider the value in your Tab. Yes the $25 plan was great, but it was a promo, and it ended. The new Tabs, including small (the classic $150 subsidy), are now a 15% payback AND any remaining Tab is cleared out after 24 months. Before this, on the $25 plan, your Tab continues on at 10% payback until it's paid off, which takes at least 4 years on a $25 plan. Also consider that your unlimited evenings/weekends start at 5PM, not 7PM. Would you rather be on the hook for nearly half a decade to Koodo or pay an extra 5 bucks/month to clear it within 24 months? Math-wise it's better to stay with a new, guaranteed 24 month $30 plan than a super long $25 plan.
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You have to consider the value in your Tab. Yes the $25 plan was great, but it was a promo, an...

That s quite misleading, under the old tab you can still clear the remaining balance at any time, and even with that included it could be lower than the accumulated extra monthly fee + tab charge, especially considering that koodo raised device prices as well.
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^ Look at it this way: 1. Yes you could, but only if you cancel. That hasn't changed. 2. I was comparing the "classic" Tab at 10% to the Small Tab (no Tab charge) to make it a more fair assessment. Kristen, here's some math for getting an Ace II X (as an example): Old Tab: $25 plan x 24 months = $600 paid for services. Tab balance after 24 months: -90. Say you wanted to upgrade your phone to the Nexus 4, assuming that this is still the old Tab system. That would cost you $240 in store at this point. So that's now $840 you have paid for plan and a new device. New Tab S: $30 minimum X 24 months = $720 paid for services Keep in mind that with a faster contribution of 15%, the Tab balance is only -42... and it is waived for the customer at this point due to new system that is CRTC compliant so you can now upgrade without having to worry about the additional 90 from the previous scenario. Price of Nexus 4 on Tab S (again, for comparison's sake) in store: $150. Total spent now would be $870. However, let's also factor in the $42 in "credits" that Koodo had to pay for you. $870 - 42 = $828. Technically $12 cheaper by doing it this way. I'm not done! What if you broke the Ace II X and wanted to upgrade, couldn't pay a lot of money in store, but can afford monthly payments? Tab Medium. Under this new Tab system, you could pay nothing in store for the Nexus 4, and would be subjected to the Tab charge of $5 each month. So working from scenario 2 again, you would have only paid $720 to Koodo for services and a new device over 24 months since the Nexus 4 was no money down. Almost sounds like financing a car. The only real flaw I see here is taxes on everything but the base math is sound, as far as I can tell. Also don't forget that we're working with the assumption that we're upgrading the device at the 24 month mark. What if a customer is comfortable with their device? Under new Tab rules, since it would be cleared, the customer could then opt for the 10% monthly discount so they'd start paying $27 for their plan and could upgrade or leave any time without worry. If they were under old Tab, they would be stuck for an ADDITIONAL 36 months just to pay it off without canceling to get the same perks a customer on the new Tab system is entitled to after 24 months. A bit of devil's advocate for the new Tab system, for sure, but remember I work for the Mobile Shop - I have to SELL IT.
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Jonathan I wrote:

^ Look at it this way: 1. Yes you could, but only if you cancel. That hasn't changed. 2. I ...

Damn Jonathan... Now that's a sales guy! I think you can sell anything
Jonathan I wrote:

^ Look at it this way: 1. Yes you could, but only if you cancel. That hasn't changed. 2. I ...

I tried to type a reply but it wouldn't let me for some reason so I will do it here, you are DOUBLE COUNTING the $42 "credit", koodo is clearing your tab balance to $0, not +$42, so the total cost out of the customer's pocket would be still $870. making it more expensive than $840 under old tab
Jonathan I wrote:

^ Look at it this way: 1. Yes you could, but only if you cancel. That hasn't changed. 2. I ...

IF you want to count the "$42 credit", your calculation would have to be $720 + $42 (tab money you should've paid) + $150 - $42 (koodo's "credit" for the 24 months tab balance) = $870 <-- STILL the same more expensive amount compared to the old tab $840
Jonathan I wrote:

^ Look at it this way: 1. Yes you could, but only if you cancel. That hasn't changed. 2. I ...

Under tab medium you will have to pay $720 for service AND $5 tab charge for 24 months, which you mentioned yourself but forgot to calculate, the total would come out to be $840, which is the same as old tab system, proving that the new 15% contribution is just a marketing gimmick
Jonathan I wrote:

^ Look at it this way: 1. Yes you could, but only if you cancel. That hasn't changed. 2. I ...

Then there's the tax, $5 a month extra monthly bill and $5 tab charge a month will amount to EXTRA taxes of $28.8 for BC and $31.2 for Ontario. add that on top of the tab medium example, you will have to pay around $870, again, more expensive than the $840.
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^ Look at it this way: 1. Yes you could, but only if you cancel. That hasn't changed. 2. I ...

That 10% discount you "earn" at the end of 24 month makes the $30 down to $27, which is still $2 more than the old $25, dunno why you even bother bringing this up
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^ Look at it this way: 1. Yes you could, but only if you cancel. That hasn't changed. 2. I ...

Your mentioning of "being stuck" is economically meaningless. Using your scenario again, If you are happy to stay with the same phone and not upgrade or cancel, @ year 2 You will have paid $600 for service under the old tab, plus $25 a month thereafter; and $720 for service under the new tab, and $27 there after, the old tab still wins. The maximum cost of you "being stuck" under the old tab is the $90 balance, which gets smaller as time goes by. So at anytime you can pay that to be free, or stay on with $600 before cost + 25 a month. Stay or cancel, free or stuck, it's $600-$690 under the old tab, and $720 under the new, so again, old tab system is less expensive
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Fair points except for me double counting the 42 credit. I never said it went to +42, dude. I don't know what you're getting at there. But what sounds better: your phone is guaranteed to be paid off after 24 months or you still have to pay $90 to cancel in 2 years? I can still market it better. I think that's what Koodo was going for. Also the $30 plan has 5pm evenings and weekends compared to the 7pm in the $25 plan. That's approximately 2800 minutes of additional unlimited airtime in an average month. Some people out there may find that useful!
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Jonathan I wrote:

Fair points except for me double counting the 42 credit. I never said it went to +42, dude. I don...

Nice calculations, Jonathan 🙂 However I'll be honest... I'd much prefer affordable plans and a higher upfront cost of the phone... (in your example, pay the $90 up front and still end up with a tab at nil) I think a starting point of $30 for just voice which doesn't even include data is outrageous. So many people have been shouting for more DATA so what does Koodo do? Up the minutes... hmm. However, to play my own devil's advocate... higher Tabs is exactly what people have been shouting for for years and I don't think they realized at what cost that would come - literally. And of course there is always the option of Prepaid. Or, as mentioned above, another provider 🙂 The only time I was truly tempted to upgrade my prepaid to a plan was with the double 30 data plan promotion... but I didn't want to forfeit the boosters I hadn't used up. Now I'll happily stay on Prepaid forever, I'm sure 😃 What I think will happen is Koodo will throw in a few promotions soon to calm everyone's nerves, but I don't quite see the plans themselves going down in price any more... I guess time will tell.
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Jonathan I wrote:

Fair points except for me double counting the 42 credit. I never said it went to +42, dude. I don...

@Johnathan, have you had more activation with Koodo's new plans and Tab or Koodo's old plans and Tab? I think that is the fairest way to determine if the changes were for the better
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Jonathan I wrote:

Fair points except for me double counting the 42 credit. I never said it went to +42, dude. I don...

I have a feeling that Jonathan could sell snow in Siberia in the winter, Dennis 😃 Still, good question 😃
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Jonathan I wrote:

Fair points except for me double counting the 42 credit. I never said it went to +42, dude. I don...

That's true, prepaid has great cheap plans. This whole Tab thing really depends on the person, though. Some people are sticklers and don't like to pay a lot of money upfront for their phone, and Koodo has catered to that market now with medium/large. Cars aren't exactly the same, but I walked in to the dealership, paid no money whatsoever, and walked out with a new car and now I have to pay bi-weekly for it. If I had put some sort of down payment, I could have gotten a lower principal, a smaller financing term, cheaper payments, etc. Tabs work in a similar fashion - more upfront/cheaper monthly, or cheaper upfront/more monthly. Some people would rather pay more per month because they get a steady cash flow and can afford a payment plan system versus chucking out a bunch of money upfront for one thing and then interrupting that flow. It may screw them up on other bills or services they have to pay. We're so used to getting highly subsidized devices over the years... now that the rates are increasing to make up for a smaller payback period, people freak out.
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Jonathan I wrote:

Fair points except for me double counting the 42 credit. I never said it went to +42, dude. I don...

That sounds fair. I understand the larger tab means larger per month payments. This is why I completely agree with the "Monthly Tab Contribution" amount. However like it's been said in the past, the increased phone prices and increased plan prices unfairly penalizes: -people who prefer the upfront payment so that they may have a lower per month cost -BYOD people
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Jonathan I wrote:

Fair points except for me double counting the 42 credit. I never said it went to +42, dude. I don...

Yeah I don't like the higher-end phone prices increasing, that was pretty uncool. Nexus 4 is the best buy right now and Koodo still has the cheapest retail price on it in market. Telus actually addressed the second issue, though: In their new plan model going forward, all agreements will be 2 years; a subsidy repayment plan. You get a base Voice plan by default and then add data; the higher the data bucket, the more expensivie it is. It's quite simple. Here's the interesting thing, though: the base Voice plan is Unlimited Nationwide talk + text with Caller ID and Voicemail 3. The price of that base plan is nearly $20 cheaper/month for people who bring their own device, which totally makes sense!
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Jonathan I wrote:

Fair points except for me double counting the 42 credit. I never said it went to +42, dude. I don...

So much simpler. No more of this Tab S/M/L nonsense. Hmm.... maybe Telus is the new Koodo 😉

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