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Just hypothetically, if someone orders a Moto G from Telus online ($200), no contract, they have, in effect bought it outright? Telus would have no valid recourse if it was then 3rd-party unlocked, without ever being activated on Telus?

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Yup. But at that point I think you should get the one from Wind (it's the XT1034 so the frequencies are a bit different but it'll work fine on Koodo) since its $225 but it's 16GB.
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This was just theoretical - I'm looking at Moto availability in Canada vs elsewhere, and wanted to make sure that there was nothing about a Telus no-contract purchase that was different from an outright or prepaid purchase. In the real world, if someone wanted the 8GB the best bet would be to get it from Virgin at $150 and unlock it, unless the extra space was worth $75 (or they wanted the AWS instead of Band 1).
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NorthernRaven wrote:

This was just theoretical - I'm looking at Moto availability in Canada vs elsewhere, and wanted t...

I'd say the extra space of the 16gb is worth at least $75 as the 8gb only has like 5.5gb usable which makes it unusable if you want to download a couple quality games as most quality games are around 2gb. I don't think anyone should buy 8gb devices personally as you grow out of it instantly or in a very very short time.
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NorthernRaven wrote:

This was just theoretical - I'm looking at Moto availability in Canada vs elsewhere, and wanted t...

It would actually plus whatever cost and effort to unlock it, of course. If you don't live near a Wind/Videotron area (I don't), I don't think they sell online, so obtaining one would be problematic. If my choice had been to pay full price I would likely have arranged to get one from the US, unlocked. But it wasn't since I went with Koodo, which subsidized the phone down to $150. Future Shop has a running $50 additional.gift card offer, and I lucked into walking in on VIP day, where they doubled the.gift card to $100. I effectively paid $50 for the phone, which makes 8GB quite tolerable! But it just goes to show how weird and distorted the Canadian market on these Moto phones is, compared to anywhere else.
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NorthernRaven wrote:

This was just theoretical - I'm looking at Moto availability in Canada vs elsewhere, and wanted t...

Woah, what a steal!
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NorthernRaven wrote:

This was just theoretical - I'm looking at Moto availability in Canada vs elsewhere, and wanted t...

Most certainly, although the $50.gift card offer from FS and Best Buy seems to be an ongoing promotion. Koodo shops also offer $50, but on Koodo accessories, whereas FS/BB was as good as cash to me. Presumably the extra $50 VIP rebate came of of FS's pockets, but rest assured that whatever wacky promotional losses Koodo takes on these phones are built into the rate structure, and customers will cover the cost.
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Funny how you came to the Koodo community to ask this question instead of the TELUS equivalent 😛
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Ahmad wrote:

Funny how you came to the Koodo community to ask this question instead of the TELUS equivalent 😛

We're better looking!
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Ahmad wrote:

Funny how you came to the Koodo community to ask this question instead of the TELUS equivalent 😛

Yeah we are 😉
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Ahmad wrote:

Funny how you came to the Koodo community to ask this question instead of the TELUS equivalent 😛

Well, no, since I have a phone on Koodo, am already set up here and have made a couple of recent posts on Moto pricing, and the question isn't especially Telus-specific. I correctly assumed I could get a reliable answer from the (until now) unfailingly friendly folks here … 🙂
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Ahmad wrote:

Funny how you came to the Koodo community to ask this question instead of the TELUS equivalent 😛

We're always friendly and helpful here. Feel free to come back anytime 🙂 We pride ourselves in being a fun community 🙂

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