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I'll be traveling with my Motorola x-play to a rural area in Vermont. My entire trip is appr. 13 days. As luck would have it, that corner of the world has basically no cell phone reception. I've gotten word that 'some' Verizon phones may work there. Could mine be one? Would I be roaming on Verizon? They do 'the other' standard, right?

So, my thinking is that if I only have sketchy service there, a 30-day roaming pack at $75 is not worth the money. However, it seems important to have my cell working on my way go and return for communication and navigation. I could do a 3-day roaming-pack at the beginning of my trip, but then I can't do a 3-day pack at the end. Right?

Does anybody have any suggestions on how to play this in a budget-conscientious way?

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I travel alot through Vermont and usually have service with AT&T Unfortunately Verizon isn't one of those networks koodo roams on. Vermont is a world on its own. If you're going to be near interstates, all of the rest areas have wifi. Check at&t coverage map for VT for more info. Also once you get a good att signal you should switch your network selection to manual instead of automatic and Choose AT&T. This will keep your device from grabbing T mobile which is less than crap there. Are you actually going to use your phone or do you just want it with you. You don't need to have a roaming package to just have your phone on in the states. And when you dial 911 I do believe your phone uses any available network. If you find you have good coverage then you can use the self serve app and wifi to grab a roaming package. If not then you save.
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Chad Burr wrote:

I travel alot through Vermont and usually have service with AT&T Unfortunately Verizon isn't ...

Verizon works better in some areas, but their main voice/txt CDMA network is largely incompatible with other carriers.

I have a US phone that uses Verizon and it is completely useless on other networks.
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Chad Burr wrote:

I travel alot through Vermont and usually have service with AT&T Unfortunately Verizon isn't ...

Only a couple of their newest phones work without any reliance on their CDMA network.
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Chad Burr wrote:

I travel alot through Vermont and usually have service with AT&T Unfortunately Verizon isn't ...

Well, I would use it, if it was economical. I definitely need navigation while traveling. Do you know what the rates are without the roaming pack, in particular data, let's say, I needed to figure out where I am  ....
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Chad Burr wrote:

I travel alot through Vermont and usually have service with AT&T Unfortunately Verizon isn't ...

O, and I did check the ATT coverage map: white area right at the end of the road where I am staying. I've been looking for a customer service email to suggest to them to provide coverage to that area - but all I found was a twitter address.
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Chad Burr wrote:

I travel alot through Vermont and usually have service with AT&T Unfortunately Verizon isn't ...

The data rate in the US without a roaming package is $5/20MB or $250/1GB. You can find all the rates over at help.koodomobile.com / coverage-long-distance-and-travelling
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Chad Burr wrote:

I travel alot through Vermont and usually have service with AT&T Unfortunately Verizon isn't ...

Honestly? Good luck. The American Carriers are notorious for terrible rural coverage. You can try nonetheless by letting them know via I guess Twitter if that's all there is .
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Chad Burr wrote:

I travel alot through Vermont and usually have service with AT&T Unfortunately Verizon isn't ...

[i]"Do you know what the rates are without the roaming pack, in particular data, let's say, I needed to figure out where I am  ...."

The GPS Apps described below will show you where you are, and how to get where you want to go without a data connection.

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Chad Burr wrote:

I travel alot through Vermont and usually have service with AT&T Unfortunately Verizon isn't ...

thanks so much

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For navigation, you should use an App which stores maps on the device, rather than downloading them on the fly while travelling. I like Co-pilot, but others have recommended Here Maps.

You should be able to add another add-on towards the end of your trip through the self-serve portal while connected to wi-fi.
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David wrote:

For navigation, you should use an App which stores maps on the device, rather than downloading th...

That's a great idea - I will do that in any case, saves me the trouble of buying a map. But - if I am not all mistaken - I still couldn't see where I am, right?

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David wrote:

For navigation, you should use an App which stores maps on the device, rather than downloading th...

You would have to download the maps ahead of time and then you could see.
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David wrote:

For navigation, you should use an App which stores maps on the device, rather than downloading th...

The GPS function on your phone will work even if you have data roaming turned off. It may take longer to find your location at first when turned on, but once it has signal from enough GPS satellites, you are gold. Set your destination on your GPS App of choice, and it will calculate the best route, and provide turn by turn directions from where you are to where you are going.

Be aware that running the GPS in your phone long term consumes a lot of battery, so you will want to have a charger for your car, and you may want a holder so you are 'hands-free' while travelling.

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David wrote:

For navigation, you should use an App which stores maps on the device, rather than downloading th...

Grab Co pilot. It's very inexpensive from the app store. I use it in my truck. You can pre download whole countries or just a state. Works great as offline gps.
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David wrote:

For navigation, you should use an App which stores maps on the device, rather than downloading th...

I've never had any problems with Sygic (GPS Navigation & Maps Sygic) though there is a fee if you want premium services. The navigational app HERE is free. As long as 'location' is enabled and offline map data is downloaded beforehand, the Moto X Play will pinpoint your approximate location. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sygic.aura
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David wrote:

For navigation, you should use an App which stores maps on the device, rather than downloading th...

Thanks for all the tips regarding Software. Of all the Copilot options, which one do you guys use?
CoPilot Truck GPS
CoPilot GPS Sat-Nav Navigation
(I probably won't go with coPilot USA -GPS Navigation as it is $13.08)
And then there is another CoPilot Truck GPS 

... I ride a motorbike ...
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David wrote:

For navigation, you should use an App which stores maps on the device, rather than downloading th...

Don't do the truck one. It's for vehicles with height and weight restrictions. If you don't want to pay then use here maps otherwise pay for Co pilot. I use this in my car. https://play.google.com/store/apps/de...
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You can do a 3 day at the end actually. You can keep redoing it every 3 days if you really wanted. That won't be a problem.

I was going to suggest getting a prepaid T Mobile sim but I guess as Chad said, they're worse than crap in Vermont. You could go with roam mobiity for 3-5 dollars a day.
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Goran wrote:

You can do a 3 day at the end actually. You can keep redoing it every 3 days if you really wanted...

Last I checked, roam uses T-Mobile
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Goran wrote:

You can do a 3 day at the end actually. You can keep redoing it every 3 days if you really wanted...

They have an alternate roaming partner, and double checking now it's a fallback for when T-Mobile does not have coverage. You pay a 1 dollar a day premium on their daily plans to use it. It doesn't say who it is. Sorry I didn't know that part. They add some talk and data for it too, but minimal amounts.
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Goran wrote:

You can do a 3 day at the end actually. You can keep redoing it every 3 days if you really wanted...

It was my understanding that I can't buy a roaming pack from outside the country. I would either have to continuously have a roaming pack or by a roaming pack at the beginning of my trip.
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Goran wrote:

You can do a 3 day at the end actually. You can keep redoing it every 3 days if you really wanted...

You cannot add via texting. Issues with code recognition on roaming Carriers. You can use the self-serve app anytime, anywhere. Or self-serve online.
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Goran wrote:

You can do a 3 day at the end actually. You can keep redoing it every 3 days if you really wanted...

Thanks a lot. This discussion was very helpful, indeed.

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