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Get the HSPA+ model of the S4 instead of the LTE model



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I agree with you Kid that the non-LTE model is definitely a superior model, BUT, it is not LTE wh...I think it's because they then can use the Octa 5 in the Galaxy Note 3 and it will seem like a new big thing in processors for Noth America. It was that way with the Galaxy S3 getting a dual core in Noth America and the International version getting the quad then they could put the quad core in the Galaxy Note 2 and have it seem like a new thing even though the Galaxy S3 international version had it months before. It all comes down to marketing and how they like to fool those who aren't so keen on learning about what is available where and that you can get a better model if you want, and that it will work.
I agree with you Kid that the non-LTE model is definitely a superior model, BUT, it is not LTE wh...The S3 is now, since a couple of months, available in LTE with the same quadcore processor than the non LTE model in Europe and some other countries, but not in Canada neither in USA.
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I agree with you Kid that the non-LTE model is definitely a superior model, BUT, it is not LTE wh...Exactly still not available in North America. Alot of ppl don't realize that you can get superior models elsewhere and they think your stuck with whatever is offered in North America by the Carriers.
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Plus One from me too 🙂 Where we live, LTE is to be expected around 2137 if we're lucky (our home Internet currently has a 1.5 Mbps download speed to give an indication)... so bring on that 8 core for us country hicks 😃
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I know, I would 100% back the HSPA+ model. In fact I just don't think the market is ready for LTE just yet. Customers may be crazy for the faster mobile internet but the data buckets are being adjusted to compensate for the increased speeds. 3G HSPA users sometimes use more than 8GB a month on a 1GB plan. Considering that, just how much data do you think they would've used if there phone were connected to LTE?
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I don't see the problem with getting the LTE version. Concerned about battery drain/not living in an area... you can turn it off, it's not like the performance will be that different in that case, plus it opens up LTE for those who want it, and hits the real push that everyone has for 4G/LTE.
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Hey guys turns out Samsung announced that the Octa 5 processor will support all 20 LTE Bands worldwide 🙂 So I'm not sure why they are making 2 different models of the Galaxy S4 and giving North America the Snapdragon Quad Core version but I'm not impressed. I guess it must be because then when they put it into the Galaxy Note 3 it will seem like a bigger deal. Koodo won't be carrying the Galaxy Note 3 I'm sure so again it still would be a good thing to get the Galaxy S4 with the Octa 5 processor because they wouldn't be taking anything away from another device if they aren't going to carry it anyways.
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Hey guys turns out Samsung announced that the Octa 5 processor will support all 20 LTE Bands worl...I've read on another mobile forum that Samsung didn't have sufficient supply of Octa 5 processors but had easier access to Snapdragon processors. So Samsung chose to go with what they have easy access to. Also, the first 10 million units built will be snapdragon model. So the octa 5 will be available in North America but not till the end of the year. This is what I've read in the past week.
so i just want to make sure, if i get the international 8-core s4 will it work on the Koodo network alright?
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so i just want to make sure, if i get the international 8-core s4 will it work on the Koodo netwo...It depends what frequencies it is compatible with and if those compatible frequencies are the frequencies used by Koodo.
so i just want to make sure, if i get the international 8-core s4 will it work on the Koodo netwo...yeah thats what i was wondering, i dont know what koodos frequencies are
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so i just want to make sure, if i get the international 8-core s4 will it work on the Koodo netwo.... Koodo HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
so i just want to make sure, if i get the international 8-core s4 will it work on the Koodo netwo...ah, thanks. the international S4 is GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 LTE (market dependent)
so i just want to make sure, if i get the international 8-core s4 will it work on the Koodo netwo...and yet wikipedia says that version doesnt support lte. looks like North American version of the s4 for me
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so i just want to make sure, if i get the international 8-core s4 will it work on the Koodo netwo...I have the international Galaxy Note 2 which is HSPA+ model and it works great on Koodo. I get Web pages fast and the benefits highly outweigh having LTE which is a fraction quicker but drains your battery almost twice as fast. Plus you get updates months before any carrier branded models. Personally I'd go for the international version.
so i just want to make sure, if i get the international 8-core s4 will it work on the Koodo netwo...Oh. Alright, thanks. Ill do that. Would you know offhand if I will have to change my phone number? Cause my sim card wont fit in it...I have to get a new one
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so i just want to make sure, if i get the international 8-core s4 will it work on the Koodo netwo...No need to change your # Luke, just buy the SIM Card and when you do either have them transfer your account to the new SIM (Which is a Micro SIM) or you can do it yourself on Self serve. Just click the change phone option and input the number on the SIM Card in and now your new card will be active on your account. Your old card will then become inactive on the account.
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LTE isn't a gimmick, it's faster data, and depending on the user, that can be incredibly useful. On my BB 9900 I averaged speeds of around 6-10mb/s down and 1-2mb/s up. With my z10 I average 57mb/s down and 20mb/s up. That's a massive difference. It means I can upload/download large files to/from my company's cloud/server in a matter seconds, as opposed to 10-15 mins in some cases. This is beyond valuable for me. Sure, it makes hardly any difference when it comes to browsing web pages and refreshing my facebook feed, but I could care less about that. Saying LTE is useless is like arguing that dial up internet is essentially the same thing as cable or 100mb/s fiber optic. And this thing about battery life I don't buy either, their is certainly more battery drain on LTE vs HSPA+, but I think if you're experiencing such a massive difference (~50%), then that has more to do with the Android/Samsung engineers then anything else. My Z10 comes off the charger at 7am and doesn't go back on till around 11pm, that's 16 hours, and it has no problem doing so, this is using LTE exclusively. Regarding the Exynos Octa 5 processor, it's a good chip, but let's not forget that there is a performance penalty for every core you add, it's not as simple as: more cores = better performance. A single core 1GHz processor is faster at a single thread than a dual core @ 1GHz, by around 15%-20%. A real performance upgrade would be a faster processor, not more 'cores'. If someone could make a dual core mobile processor (with hyper threading) @ 2Ghz+ it would be game over.
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LTE isn't a gimmick, it's faster data, and depending on the user, that can be incredibly useful. ...Hum, HSPA+ is about 20mbs while LTE is 50/100 mbs, I know nobody but big companies that split their internet connections that need such speeds. Especally when using compressed files like mobile data does...
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LTE isn't a gimmick, it's faster data, and depending on the user, that can be incredibly useful. ...How many big files does anyone ever download with their Phone over the providers data connection and not wifi, not many. Also you must not use your Z10 much if you can get 16hrs out of the thing, I'm lucky to get 8hrs. I have a international Galaxy Note 2 (hspa+) & a Canadian Carrier branded model Galaxy Note 2 (LTE) and I'll do a test to see 100% but I've compared with my friends (in India) and it was almost half battery life with LTE. Like I said I'll do a complete test now that I have both models of the Galaxy Note Note 2 and let you know exactly the comparison of battery life.
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LTE isn't a gimmick, it's faster data, and depending on the user, that can be incredibly useful. ...Same here, I have the international version and I watch Netflix full HD np.
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LTE isn't a gimmick, it's faster data, and depending on the user, that can be incredibly useful. ...You only get 8 hours on LTE on a z10? That's absolutely horrible. Are you in an area that has limited LTE coverage and the radio is constantly switching? I'd consider myself to be a pretty heavy user, on any given day I reply to anywhere from 50-100 emails, 3-4 hours of talk time, multiple uploads/downloads, etc.. Some of the time I could be on wifi, like when I'm at the office or at home, but a lot of the time I'm in the car, at an outbound client meeting, at a personal appointment, etc., so I really can't be bothered to try and find a wifi connection. Chances are even if I did go out of my way to find one, the LTE speeds are going to be faster anyways, and I'm in downtown Toronto so the coverage is widespread, 5 full bars constantly. If I only got 8 hours on LTE that would be a deal breaker for me, that's certainly not enough to get through a day, but I've never run into that issue. For times when I know I'll be away from a charger for a longer period of time, like when I'm travelling, I bring a spare battery with me, it's beyond convenient. It's a little bit odd that I can't seem to find any 'academic/scientific' studies comparing HSPA vs LTE battery drain, it's just people on forums, or with blogs, doing personal tests themselves, and I'd like to actually see some hard numbers and information about how much the variance is, and why. The latency with LTE is lower then HSPA, and the speeds are higher, so theoretically, this should actually save battery. For example, I get an email and it has a 15mb attachment, on LTE the device will ping the server, download the attachment, and return to idle state earlier then it would on HSPA. Which means that the major battery drain differential between LTE and HSPA must take place while the device radio is idle. Can LTE really be so much less efficient then HSPA while idling?
Do any of you have the international s4?

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